Fertilizing winter cereal

DrWazzock · Mar 13, 2024

Not even got the Polysulphate on. They say it needs two months to break down. So it’s turning into a waste of time and money. I’ve urea to put on by end of March. Starting to wonder if it will ever happen. It’ll no doubt go Saturday. Always at the weekend when a social event booked. I am growing to detest this job actually. It’s a waste of money and effort. I’d happily put it all in with herbal leys, worth £30k a year and let my brother the sheep man make what he can of it. Arable is finished here. It was always a struggle but this year is the final straw.

DrWazzock · Mar 14, 2024

Walked over it tonight. Some areas would go but some areas won’t. Next week it’s going to have to go regardless of the ruts and mess. There’s no other way.

Fish · Mar 15, 2024

Went to pick up my son from BB college yesterday, out run by York/ Pocklington, home via Driff/ Malton, lots of sad looking crops, most yet to see a fert spreader, only on the edge of the wolds did things look more or less ok.
Very very few osr crops, and most of those looked unhappy. Osr is heading for extinction in north/east yorkshire.

Heathland · Mar 15, 2024

@DrWazzock I'm going to miss you trials and tribulations when you go all in with SFI

Managed to get all heathland done last week,but haven't dare venture on the lowland and the wheats,whats left are starting to go off badly now,but they've looked dire all winter so nothing has changed there.
I was hoping to go today but its blowing a gale now.
Even my winter beans which were drilled at the start of Feb in reasonable conditions on the lowland have rotted off in areas now....this bloody year

Hoping to go tomorrow now looking at the forecast.

Wombat · Mar 15, 2024

Heathland said:
@DrWazzock I'm going to miss you trials and tribulations when you go all in with SFI
Managed to get all heathland done last week,but haven't dare venture on the lowland and the wheats,whats left are starting to go off badly now,but they've looked dire all winter so nothing has changed there.
I was hoping to go today but its blowing a gale now.
Even my winter beans which were drilled at the start of Feb in reasonable conditions on the lowland have rotted off in areas now....this bloody year
Hoping to go tomorrow now looking at the forecast.

My beans are similar drilled begging of Feb, that and 200 rooks busy pulling them out

teslacoils · Mar 15, 2024

It's rained every day of the dry week.

4course · Mar 15, 2024

im glad I took no notice of those who said too early and been round all cereals twice other than the bit not sown or to resow , though partly being forced by the urea deadline which is fast approaching .

DrWazzock · Mar 15, 2024

Heathland said:
@DrWazzock I'm going to miss you trials and tribulations when you go all in with SFI
Managed to get all heathland done last week,but haven't dare venture on the lowland and the wheats,whats left are starting to go off badly now,but they've looked dire all winter so nothing has changed there.
I was hoping to go today but its blowing a gale now.
Even my winter beans which were drilled at the start of Feb in reasonable conditions on the lowland have rotted off in areas now....this bloody year
Hoping to go tomorrow now looking at the forecast.

I am tempted to go with base fertilisers this morning despite the wind, especially on grass. There’s just too much of a backlog piling up and I’m running out of time.

DrWazzock · Mar 15, 2024

In SFI news we are only going for herbal leys as the sheep can use them. No point in pollinator mix or bird seed for us as we think they’d get too weedy and can’t be grazed.
How much arable we retain as cereals is debatable. We will need some barley and straw for the sheep so we will grow a bit.
Beans and OSR are definelty gone.

grainboy · Mar 15, 2024

I’ll put it out there,
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Salopian_Will · Mar 15, 2024

grainboy said:
I’ll put it out there,
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The problem is they are becoming increasingly obsolete as more tractors have air brakes, which these do not fit around. I have some big 1050s off an old combine which I thought would be just the job but the rims are too small.

DRC · Mar 15, 2024

DrWazzock said:
I am tempted to go with base fertilisers this morning despite the wind, especially on grass. There’s just too much of a backlog piling up and I’m running out of time.

I’d have a year off with the base fertiliser if your indices are anywhere near.

FMF74 · Mar 15, 2024

Salopian_Will said:
The problem is they are becoming increasingly obsolete as more tractors have air brakes, which these do not fit around. I have some big 1050s off an old combine which I thought would be just the job but the rims are too small.

They look useful tyres though and rims are surprisingly reasonable to have made

Nearly · Mar 15, 2024

FMF74 said:
They look useful tyres though and rims are surprisingly reasonable to have made

The swappable centre inserts save a lot of work.
Most farms could find an old classic to sprinkle a bit of N on as a therapy vehicle.
8340 on 600's and 480's has been over my little patch twice. It has helped my blood pressure.

JLLM · Mar 15, 2024

grainboy said:
I’ll put it out there,
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I have centre disc's which I think fit JD.

grainboy · Mar 15, 2024

Anyone interested £700 the pair, plus vat,

SilliamWhale · Mar 15, 2024

4course said:
im glad I took no notice of those who said too early and been round all cereals twice other than the bit not sown or to resow , though partly being forced by the urea deadline which is fast approaching .

Take no notice of the urea deadline, do what is best for you. Its not a legal obligation

Brisel · Mar 15, 2024

SilliamWhale said:
Take no notice of the urea deadline, do what is best for you. Its not a legal obligation

Just don't boast about it on social media!

DrWazzock · Mar 15, 2024

I’m putting on 120 kg ammonium nitrate on grass, winter barley and the tiny bit of OSR that’s left. It is a bit gusty but it’s settling and my thinking is a low ish dose won’t be so bad if the wind blows it about and the faster acting nitrate will save the crop till the urea gets in and going later. It’s not the way round intended it but it’s some progress. The urea is stuck behind the nitrate in the heap as well and I don’t want to move it twice. Biggest dilemma in the field is knowing when to shut off particularly in the OSR. Probably just throwing more money away.

SilliamWhale · Mar 15, 2024

Brisel said:
Just don't boast about it on social media!

I'm in Wales, I can!

Out of interest if someone put Urea on on April 3rd in England would their corn not be able to be sold with a Red Tractor sticker? Would this toxic waste have to be landfilled?

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