Maize 2023

frederick

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Location
south west
We are in balance on our PAnd K. Mainly because we don’t buy in much straw.
my many issues with Digestate are the nutrients in proves aren’t necessary the ones your soil needs.
Interesting thought about your P balance. The vast majority of P that you export as milk technically will still end up in a river which is why @ollie989898 nutrient balancing for housing is a real thing.
 

In the pit

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembrokeshire
If this happens ☝️ there won't be a roundabout safe between Haverfordwest and Carmarthen.
I reckon the first trailer to tip over will be on the usual suspect roundabout by Haverfordwest.
There gonna clamp the maize near to where it’s grown then haul it to farm with a lorry and fym on a back load.be no different to bringing in blend or other feedstuffs
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Seems madness to me, would be better to rest their own land for a year although I accept it wouldn't be the cheapest option for them. I wouldn't be surprised if the EA start getting serious about P and K indices one day- another reason I wouldn't let anyone go taking soil samples.
EA inspector said to me he knew results were being fudged but they dont have the money to do the testing themselves. Fair few samples get taken from the house lawn!
 
Interesting thought about your P balance. The vast majority of P that you export as milk technically will still end up in a river which is why @ollie989898 nutrient balancing for housing is a real thing.

The biggest source of phosphate is soil loss from fields. Phosphate does not walk away or leach, it is bound to soil colloids. If you lose soil, then phosphate is going with it. There used to be phosphates in sewage as detergents contained them. Probably less of an issue now.
 

crashbox

Member
Livestock Farmer
Final photo to close the thread out...

Maize covers today.
Drilled 23rd Sept 23.
Will be bale grazed and back into maize end of April.

Challenge is how to estimating how many kgs N/ha the cover crop, bales and livestock manure return back.

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frederick

Member
Location
south west
After the wet weather we've had and outwintering some fair-sized cows, even on our light land there's some compaction to resolve.

We'll do one pass with sub-soiler/power harrow combination, then drill in the maize.

Just crop, I agree that could work.
Bit of ground we've worked so far which is easy land sub soiler would be a complete waste of time for weeks as it will just smear through and break up nothing
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
what we have 'moved', has dried out very quickly.

had plans to aerate lots, but to wet, then to long grass, made worse by we sold most of the cows, that would have grazed it off.
 

Dead Rabbits

Member
Location
'Merica
After the wet weather we've had and outwintering some fair-sized cows, even on our light land there's some compaction to resolve.

We'll do one pass with sub-soiler/power harrow combination, then drill in the maize.

Just crop, I agree that could work.
Same issue here but managed to relegate it to relatively small areas.

I have wintered on the lightest land and made a hell of a mess, but just drug the drill through it anyway, that was planting sorghum sudan as corn is a bit more sensitive to planting depth.

The paddocks that I’ve done this on are some of the most productive despite seeing no commercial fertilizer at all in several years. It also just kind of leveled itself out after awhile. Can’t even tell it had 12-14 inch deep ruts in it.
 

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