Too fat to farm?

Ffermer Bach · Mar 18, 2024

one can't exercise away a bad diet, exercise is very good for us, but it's no substitute for diet. Fat- too many seed oils, carbs, sugar and ultra processed food (incidentally all the things that make the manufacturers the most money). Victorians got it right, putting water fountains in, instead we have vending machines for pop.

Northeastfarmer · Mar 18, 2024

Ffermer Bach said:
. Victorians got it right, putting water fountains in, instead we have vending machines for pop.

Unfortunately water doesn’t generate the same profits as tins of fizzy drinks

Drillman · Mar 18, 2024

Went for a curry with some friends a while back all of us have passed the 49 and 12 month milestone. I will admit I’m guilty of putting a bit too much much middle age spread on my toast but one lad there with shirt buttons under severe tension was ordering and downing cans of full fat coke two at a time. He hadn’t seen his feet for some years either!

Will he see 59 and 12 months?

mixedfmr · Mar 18, 2024

MRT said:
Grandfather A. Lean as a whip, fast and sharp, old by 60 dead at 63. Grandfather B. More fat on one forearm than my whole body, active into his 80s and greedy to the end. I'm near 6 foot, didn't break the 63kg mark until I was 40. Not making big pension plans

As I say, its in the genes
Well some of them, or a mix of all

Bongodog · Mar 18, 2024

There are a multitude of issues, feckless parents, idleness, school pe, sheer availability of junk food.
There was a boy in my daughters class at primary school, lived less than half a mile from the school, mum used to drive him to school and then after picking him up drive round to the shop so he could buy his sweeties. I saw him in his xxxl tracky bottoms and hoody 2 weeks ago with mum waddling round Tesco still getting his sweeties.
Daughter went to the same secondary school as me, in my time we were told what the pe session was, in her time they got to choose, some of the options didn't involve much effort.
Our village shops used to close at 5.30pm weekdays, 1pm Saturday closed Sunday, now it's 7 to 10 every day and the majority of the stuff sold is high calory processed crap. When I was one of the village scout leaders, we had one family that picked the kids up from the hall and then drove in the wrong direction home to go past the shop and get the snacks at 9pm.
To a good number of people it's an achievement to be unfit for work, you get an extra payment of £395 a month on top of unemployment benefit.

Exfarmer · Mar 18, 2024

ARW said:
Why I'm livid — but not surprised — that the US sugar industry funded one of the biggest misconceptions in modern nutrition

A searing report in The New York Times reveals that an American sugar trade group paid scientists to publish research that made sugar look benign.

www.businessinsider.com

There are many articles about this type of thing

So an in depth report on the sugar industry, Really?
This is what is known in the journalism as a puff. how do these come about , this type of pseudo journalism.
to get these stories in the paper it has long been common practice by large corporations to organise conferences in exotic locations, then you invite journalists to attend. They will invite them and their partners to destinations such as Dubai , Kuala Lumpur , or the Virgin Islands in the Caribbean.5 star hotels probably chuck in a pair of business class tickets as well. There they will be wined and dined they get to meet the top guys in the corporations and hopefully even get expensive goody bags although this is frowned on as it smacks of corruption. Of course there is no suggestion that they will be induced to write anything about the conference positive to otherwise, but they will certainly learn that next years event is in another very lush location, the whole event will cost far more than there 3.6 million dollar annual income of the International Sugar Association!
You do realise the sugar report they quoted was from 1967, a time when the word obesity had hardly reared its head , when the real perceived danger was heart disease caused by dairy fats , a belief widespread in the medical and other communities at the time largely due to pressure from companies such as Van Den Burgh who basically formulated the model of Journalistic arm twisting.
I would suggest a far better port to go to a genuine independent report is this one from 2023 from the WHO

WHO advises not to use non-sugar sweeteners for weight control in newly released guideline

The World Health Organization (WHO) has released a new guideline on non-sugar sweeteners (NSS), which recommends against the use of NSS to control body weight or reduce the risk of noncommunicable diseases (NCDs).

www.who.int

Exfarmer · Mar 18, 2024

ARW said:
How Coca-Cola Disguised Its Influence on Science about Sugar and Health

Coca-Cola quietly funded a research institute out of the University of Colorado designed to persuade people to focus on exercise, not calorie intake, for weight loss strategies.

www.ucsusa.org

Move about the sugar industry, you have to remember they have the money and resources to advertise and influence

sorry that is not the sugar industry read the second word!

Exfarmer · Mar 18, 2024

There is of course another big killer to the argument that sugar causes obesity

We eat less than half the sugar today than 60 years ago. That is fact and includes glucose syrup but not sugar substitutes NSS

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2024

Its mechanisation too.
We didnt have a loader till 1981
Blokes used to dig roads by hand
Spuds all hand ball till we stopped in 83
I played rugby on a tour in 1992 with a bloke whose father refused to buy a loader of any sort. All wee bales and tattie bags handballed
He was a man mountain, not an ounce of fat

Exfarmer · Mar 18, 2024

This is the whole problem, awe are eating as if we are still the labouring classes

Werzle · Mar 18, 2024

Im lucky i couldnt put weight on if i lived on lard and belly pork morning noon and night but i often wonder how the overrweight lads cope when you need to climb on a load or get through a barrier when there sweating like a bull just doing ordinary tasks.

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2024

Stress leads to weight gain, and lots of people are stressed out, especially me

Werzle · Mar 18, 2024

glasshouse said:
Stress leads to weight gain, and lots of people are stressed out, especially me

Stress stops me from eating !

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2024

Werzle said:
Im lucky i couldnt put weight on if i lived on lard and belly pork morning noon and night but i often wonder how the overrweight lads cope when you need to climb on a load or get through a barrier when there sweating like a bull just doing ordinary tasks.

I went to work in russia in 93, and at lunch our skinny blonde interpreter tucked into lumps of lard as if it was cheese
No fatties over there!!

Exfarmer · Mar 18, 2024

Werzle said:
Im lucky i couldnt put weight on if i lived on lard and belly pork morning noon and night but i often wonder how the overrweight lads cope when you need to climb on a load or get through a barrier when there sweating like a bull just doing ordinary tasks.

and as they get fatter so they expend less energy so they put on more weight.
our obesity crisis is caused by one thing and one thing only, we are becoming a sedentary society and high energy food is so easily available and exceedingly good to eat.
We like to blame big industry but I dare anyone to visit our local baker all hand made from the very best local ingredients ( well excluding the spices raisins etc etc

) Woosters to those in the know, I swear I put on weight just going in there

Werzle · Mar 18, 2024

Lads always drinking fizzy drinks and energy drinks and cant pass a drive thru or snack wagon without stopping etc arent doing themselves any favours

Humble Village Farmer · Mar 18, 2024

Exfarmer said:
I just have this wonderful vision of a cow with a can

Isn't that the point, that you wouldn't feed it to your stock?

paul&mandy · Mar 18, 2024

kfpben said:
I have quite a few youngsters help me at various times of year. Vet students, 15 year old work experience kids, ag college students, the odd NEET from the county council.

Most are ok, some are very good, some are muppets. However the thread that runs between nearly all the youngsters that are hard going is that they are overweight. The heavy ones can’t keep up, can’t do the work, need to sit down and are generally a liability. If you can’t muck out 5 lambing pens without needing a rest you have a problem. Or if you can’t keep up as we walk a flock of sheep a mile down the road. These are both incidents I’ve had in the past month.

In some ways I feel sorry for them, if you’re 5 stone overweight by the age of 18 and don’t have many academic qualifications I’d say you’re virtually unemployable.

How does society sort out the physical shape of today’s youth? Do we put so much emphasis on classroom education that children don’t do enough exercise? Realistically sport at school should be daily and compulsory. Healthy body, healthy mind. Or is it time for a form of national service?

Fitter people would benefit all sectors of the economy- especially farming!

Wish our 15yr old would sit still. She runs in clubs, does county x country. I send her round the sheep to save the dog....

organicguy · Mar 18, 2024

Northeastfarmer said:
You should give them a glass of milk to sup

Good idea, might try it

Exfarmer · Mar 18, 2024

paul&mandy said:
Wish our 15yr old would sit still. She runs in clubs, does county x country. I send her round the sheep to save the dog....

you are very lucky , our grandson would spend his life on the sofa playing Fortnite with his friends on line

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