The war in Ukraine...

will l

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Arable Farmer
Ever the optimist I'll give him that.


Ukraine hopes to start membership talks with EU in H1 2024 – PM Shmyhal​

18.03.2024 11:19

Ukraine expects to start accession negotiations with the EU in the first half of this year.
Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said this in an interview with Euractiv, Ukrinform reports.

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It is good to have challenges and objectives it is how the world works,
Some people however arent capable of anything but snied remarks, and demeaning of others,
 

essex man

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colchester
Neither do you what? :)

Price fixing has an established meaning involving conspiracy. I was stretching it, knowing that corporate powers, who may not know each other personally or professionally, are nevertheless complicit in the inflation we little people felt very personally. How? By simply understanding the cry for less supply = greater demand = more profit.

War makes a few people at the top even richer.
Yes, you seem to be suggesting the war is ukraine is being waged simply to engender a temporary rise in energy prices which messed up the plans of rich and poor if caught on the wrong side of it?
 

soapsud

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Dorset
Yes, you seem to be suggesting the war is ukraine is being waged simply to engender a temporary rise in energy prices which messed up the plans of rich and poor if caught on the wrong side of it?
It's an leveraged consequence of opportunists cashing in on it here in the UK by using it for capture and extraction of their own population. The war itself is primarily about politics. We in the UK are feeling that economically.
 

BrianV

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Thought we are told the plan is the invasion of Europe. :ROFLMAO:

TORONTO STAR​

With the election behind him, Putin says Russian forces aim to set up a buffer zone inside Ukraine​

The announcement of a buffer zone came on the eve of the 10th anniversary of Russia's seizure of Ukraine's Crimea Peninsula, which set the stage for Russia to invade its neighbor in 2022.
By The Associated Press
Monday, March 18, 2024
2 min to read
Article was updated 25 mins ago

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farmerm

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Shropshire
No really whoever would have thought that. 🤔

You must have missed the previous post...
 

Hindsight

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Lincolnshire
Russia attacking Spain now, FFS what the hell, I'd guess there's a lot of American dollars in brown envelopes or new Bitcoin accounts floating around Europe recently, all this talk of Russia attacking Europe is total bullish!t just to cover up Politicians complicity in NATO expansion & the inevitable consequences.
Nukes might very well fly in future but only as far as Ukraine.

‘Wake up!’ – Spain’s Defense Minister implores Spaniards to take Russian missile strike seriously​

March 18, 2024, 06:20

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Rational comment. Mr Putin and various commentators from the Kremlin keep saying time to send a Missile or two, nuclear or no, into a major European Capital. You keep saying we should take him seriously yet now are back tracking from that. Your have a peculiar position Brian. But the real point is here is the leader of a Mainline International State allowing pundits on State TV to promulgate the idea of sending missiles into Europe.
 

essex man

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Location
colchester
It's an leveraged consequence of opportunists cashing in on it here in the UK by using it for capture and extraction of their own population. The war itself is primarily about politics. We in the UK are feeling that economically.
If prices change dramatically there is always money to be made, yes.
Sorry, what is a " leveraged consequence" ?
What is the "it" in that sentence?
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
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Dartmoor
Rational comment. Mr Putin and various commentators from the Kremlin keep saying time to send a Missile or two, nuclear or no, into a major European Capital. You keep saying we should take him seriously yet now are back tracking from that. Your have a peculiar position Brian. But the real point is here is the leader of a Mainline International State allowing pundits on State TV to promulgate the idea of sending missiles into Europe.
No harm in frightening fools, only an idiot would believe Putin having suffered the losses they have fighting Ukraine would believe he would be willing to start a war with NATO.
My position is common sense rather than listening to scare mongering morons.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Rational comment. Mr Putin and various commentators from the Kremlin keep saying time to send a Missile or two, nuclear or no, into a major European Capital. You keep saying we should take him seriously yet now are back tracking from that. Your have a peculiar position Brian. But the real point is here is the leader of a Mainline International State allowing pundits on State TV to promulgate the idea of sending missiles into Europe.
Spain, and the EU as a whole need to take it seriously! As far as NATO defence spending goes, 83% is by non-EU countries, yet nigh on the whole focus of NATO is on the defence of Europe...

Think, only 17% of NATO spending comes from within the EU... and the US is p!ssed off, go figure. 😐
 

BrianV

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Mixed Farmer
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Dartmoor
Spain, and the EU as a whole need to take it seriously! As far as NATO defence spending goes, 83% is by non-EU countries, yet nigh on the whole focus of NATO is on the defence of Europe...

Think, only 17% of NATO spending comes from within the EU... and the US is p!ssed off, go figure. 😐
Need I say more!
 

essex man

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Location
colchester
Rational comment. Mr Putin and various commentators from the Kremlin keep saying time to send a Missile or two, nuclear or no, into a major European Capital. You keep saying we should take him seriously yet now are back tracking from that. Your have a peculiar position Brian. But the real point is here is the leader of a Mainline International State allowing pundits on State TV to promulgate the idea of sending missiles into Europe.
What do you think they were "promulgating" that idea?
 

soapsud

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Livestock Farmer
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Dorset
If prices change dramatically there is always money to be made, yes.
Sorry, what is a " leveraged consequence" ?
What is the "it" in that sentence?
Many physicists, engineers, etc work in the city. They use Newtonian terms in re-bundling, re-packaging, re-structuring their products.

ie re-financing is simple more of what they do but they have to lever, gear, pivot, pulley in other accounting ledgers to pull it off. The crash of the subprime market in 2008 publicised this.

The "it" is inflation caused by modern world events. ie price rises. I called it price fixing because corporates all follow the same MO. They belong to the same FA but are just different clubs.

So "leveraged consequences" is price hikes based on the media narrative that the Ukraine war caused base commodity shortages, which was caused by sanctions against Russia, which caused loss of usual supply chains, which gave us inflation.

You know this, right?
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms

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