I’ve been to many meetings by various companies and I’ve asked the same question each time. Can I put the whole farm in this scheme and all of them said yes. Big land agents saying farming for a changing system seminars. Environmental goods for public money. Soil health. More farmland birds. 3 years with pesticides not entering in the water course. Urea not entering the atmosphere. What the hell are we meant to Do. anyway Tesco have brought a farm down the road. All going into trees. Good land too.
New limits to SFI.
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serf
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- warwickshire
They ain't got a scooby and just doing policy on the hoof , what a bunch of fekin cowboys
livestock 1
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The truth of the matter is while bps is readily criticised on here almost all of the people I know who claimed it farmed in a very similar way to how they did when the headage payments were on.
Sfi restricts production to those who are currently producing and want to produce and gives those who don’t really want to farm the option to hang their coat up. Those same people didn’t get enough of a payment off bps to do that so it effectively kept them in production.
Sfi restricts production to those who are currently producing and want to produce and gives those who don’t really want to farm the option to hang their coat up. Those same people didn’t get enough of a payment off bps to do that so it effectively kept them in production.
Something might come out of this. Either food production or environmental measures. There’s no half way house. All these land investors can inploy staff I can’t.They ain't got a scooby and just doing policy on the hoof , what a bunch of fekin cowboys
farmerm
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- Shropshire
Farming and other stuff farming related... I don't know, maybe I don't do all the "this, that and the other" I am supposed to but if I combined all the time I spend prepping for farm assurance, filling movement book, medicine book, movement forms, grain passports etc its like a day or 2 a year but its mostly done in my "dead time" often of an evening its more productive than watching coronation street. I would like a bonfire of red tape as much as the next man but I doubt I would be financially any better for it. Some things improved. The old IACs paperwork took forever but in recent years BPS claim could be done before my morning coffee got cold.
So gov want farmers to be businessmen!
Well can they accept a business attitude?
livestock 1
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Have you really thought this out what you are saying? Or have you not much going on?
Couldn’t disagree. There’s to many farmers out there saying the same old thing. we are farming because that’s what we have always done.
Skintagain
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- Perched on the Pennines
All it does is tie more land up with old ens slipper farming letting places go and stops some youth getting in. Then folk wonder why young folk go get a good job somewhere. Pisses me off no end tbh.
lloyd
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- Herefordshire
Question .
What qualifies as being recognised as a 'farmer'?
The definition on google describes someone who cultivates
the land or raises animals.
What qualifies as being recognised as a 'farmer'?
The definition on google describes someone who cultivates
the land or raises animals.
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
Maybe I just keep it simple, or maybe sleep deprived
livestock 1
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What about someone who tells people on the internet that they are working for the public good?
The landowner that has retired or the investor that has a once a month conversation with the contractor doing the work. Should sell some grain this month. And our we both happy about the marginal profit we both can make.
livestock 1
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Someone gave the example of tb testingMaybe I just keep it simple, or maybe sleep deprived
We have just come off three years of tb testing every 6 months that’s 12 days a year for 2 people just doing that then there’s all the pre movement testing in between that so roughly you could say that’s one month a year gone for one member of staff so in the last 3 years there’s been 3 months gone tb testing
lloyd
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- Herefordshire
Perhaps the definition of 'farmer' will be reviewed by a change of government
and these schemes will be the catalyst.
I'd imagine a labour government looking to raise more tax revenue could easily look
closely at IHT and who should qualify.
and these schemes will be the catalyst.
I'd imagine a labour government looking to raise more tax revenue could easily look
closely at IHT and who should qualify.
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Could well be. Nobody knows what the future holds.
But at least the first applicant would have had the freedom to make his own choices. To me that also holds a significant value.
- Location
- Peterborough
I watch this with interest. I sell machinery and have a few pigs/chickens because I’ve always wanted to farm. I’m 60 now and I wouldn’t want to be a full time farmer for anything now. I respect people who try and make it work
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
Until yesterday UK governments have been the ones wanting to change the definition of "farmer" from "food producer" as most farmers would know it, to "park keeper".
Now they seem to want them to be "park keepers who produce food below the cost of production".
livestock 1
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Do machinery dealers discuss selling machinery on a night or do they have a life ?
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
They have supermarket executives telling them what food policy should be. Corporate entities have far greater access to government than voters.