FarmerBruce
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- Yorkshire
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FarmerBruce
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- Yorkshire
Or so I was told
WRXppp
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- Location
- North Yorks
Been trying to find out myself because it really screws the market when 2million tonne of home production isn’t utilised and on top of that 1.2 million tonne of extra feed as a byproduct of the import usage lands on the feed market too, 3.2 million tonne to find a home for or around 15% of normal year grain production, whatever that is, is a pretty big heap!
- Location
- Darlington
Ensus is on about 80% maize I think.
- Location
- Northumberland
I don't quite follow your sums. The 1.2m tonne of byproduct will exist regardless of where the grain is sourced. It's also not comparable to cereals, as it's a protein feed. Anyone tempted to say "it's all feed" should note that it's still £300/t.
I do agree that the origin and size of the intake tonnage is a big sway in the UK market, especially North/South flows. Even the talk of the consumption and its source can influence things heavily, hence why it's hard to find the details.
fieldfarmer
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Yes it would still exist but not in this country. If entially fed on home grown cereal it would remove 2 million tonnes (his rough figures) from our feed stocks an replace 1.2 after use so .8 million used. If all imported feedstock then the original 2 millions still here looking for a home plus the 1.2 (after the imported been through the plant returned to our market so now 3.2 looking for a feed home here
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- Northumberland
The point I disagreed with is the suggestion of 3.2m extra, which I think you're also implying. The only difference is the 2m of home grain not used. The byproducts (there's syrup as well) are always in the UK, and are a different commodity anyway, similar to suggesting that a heap of Potash is equivalent to urea because it's all fertiliser.
fieldfarmer
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If they don't re -export the 1.2 m ton that comes back out of the plant from the IMPORTED feedstock but add this to our domestic stock they yes is still in this country as a feed ( it can and does displace domestic demand) and must be added to the 2m ton that still here so 3.2 now is here looking for a feed home.
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fieldfarmer
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Similar to suggesting imported potash and imported urea are both imported fertilisers yes.
- Location
- Northumberland
What they do with the 1.2m tonne has no effect. It doesn't matter where the grain came from, the 1.2m is still to dispose of, whether that's export (never heard of that at all), home market (getting more lucrative with less rapemeal/pulses) or landfill (actually true in the past!).
Pretend UK wheat is a 10m tonne harvest.
They use UK: 8m tonnes to find a home for (+1.2m byproduct)
They use import: 10m tonnes to find a home for (+1.2m byproduct)
Difference: 2m tonnes of wheat.
fieldfarmer
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You maths makes sense, I just don't understand it yet.sorry
- Location
- Yorkshire
I keep seeing figures saying a 30% reduction in UK OSR this year. Surely it's got to be more than that.
There's bugger all yellow fields around here.
There's bugger all yellow fields around here.
Jo28
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- Location
- East Yorks
Unfortunately ours is down 100%
- Location
- South Devon
Neighbours are up on area and all looks fairly decent, bright yellow 2 weeks ago. Seems early? Personally don't know anything about growing the stuff
- Location
- Durham, UK
Its more near 90%
- Location
- Durham, UK
Our ww is suffering with the wet and its already had 60 units on
- Location
- Lincolnshire
OSR100% gone here,went to the moisture meter clinic yesterday,didn't have to bother testing the OSR sample☹.
In the mean time sold some malting barley for £210 yesterday.
In the mean time sold some malting barley for £210 yesterday.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Winter crops starting to suffer here. Which makes me sad as they came through wet autumn and winter relatively unscathed.
Had N mid February but haven't got on again since.
Was watching a Australian farmer unload 8t of OSR seed earlier! Had 6.5k acres going in.
Had N mid February but haven't got on again since.
Was watching a Australian farmer unload 8t of OSR seed earlier! Had 6.5k acres going in.
4course
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- Location
- north yorks
60 reckon we must have overdosed