Doesn't make it alright

primmiemoo · Apr 21, 2024

Red Fred said:
I'm one as well, but ever since a member WHO USED TO TALK IN CAPITALS said that we should all be shot, I have been in the closet.
And no, I don't know any cabinet ministers, my mates are all perfectly normal members of society and I was never propositioned by the history teacher behind the boat shed. The only Earl I ever met is my landlord. In fact it was a hoot but it seems to have become a sort of general slur after the actions of our politicians and in interviews, former pupils feed the common perception by apologising and pretending they suffered in some way.

And when it comes to which Public Skool ~ there are many more completely normal and decent Old [insert Public Skool name here]s in the world than the crooks and b*starts in politics and business we hear about in the News.

Danllan · Apr 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Just for clarity … it was a very minor public school for thickos but it did introduce girls when I was 16 so that was the end of schooling for me

Oh no, it wasn't Bloxham was it...?

Lazy Eric · Apr 21, 2024

ollie989898 said:
TFF is a heck of a lot friendly than some places on the web!

This is very true. As the old quote “ ive never been so offended “. Well in that case you need to get out more….

Bald Rick · Apr 21, 2024

Danllan said:
Oh no, it wasn't Bloxham was it...?

Now I am offended …

Danllan · Apr 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Now I am offended …

But why... because you are an old Bloxhamist, or because you aren't...?

Bald Rick · Apr 21, 2024

Danllan said:
But why... because you are an old Bloxhamist, or because you aren't...?

Ain‘t.

melted welly · Apr 21, 2024

killie_cowboy said:
Is the view good from up on your high horse?

This industry has overwhelmingly conservative/traditionalist views, don't you come on like we are baddies because you're willing to be trod on by any and all groups who shout blue murder.

Eejit*

* preferred pronoun is “muppet”

livestock 1 · Apr 21, 2024

In this country the minority is protected at the expense of the majority
Examples of this are not being allowed to wave the England flag
Footballers taking the knee for the benefit anti racism. This anti racism doesn’t provide any protection or benefit to ‘white’ people
That is the definition of racist in itself
People identifying of something else
It’s all crazy it’s already gone too far

Ffermer Bach · Apr 21, 2024

jondear said:
No one worries about having a go at Gingers !

or gypsies

Ffermer Bach · Apr 21, 2024

Northeastfarmer said:
What if you’re a black ginger vegan trans person?

at work we had targets for recruiting from different groupings, however, if you were female & black you could only be counted towards targets once, you would not get two points.

Ffermer Bach · Apr 21, 2024

suffolksmallholder said:
I am a bit lost, sorry.
Not sure what point you are trying to put over.
SS

I would add, that yes there are 66k members (I presume, haven't checked), however if the membership is represented by the attendees at the agricultural events I go to (mart, groundswell, farm sales), I would guess that most members are white middle aged men. UK is a multiracial country, however, I really only ever see a coloured person running a takeaway and both my children attended schools where everyone was white. And I must admit, I have never seen a man wearing a dress on a building site in West Wales either!!!

Danllan · Apr 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Ain‘t.

Relief...

yoki · Apr 21, 2024

melted welly said:
* preferred pronoun is “muppet”

That's harsh, the muppets were funny, entertaining, and harmless.

Ffermer Bach · Apr 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
No you bloody well can’t (as an ex PSB and mod on here - although I have no idea why)

interestingly, I recently watched the latest Jimmy Carr release on Netflix and whilst he was happy to have a go at just about anything, he refused to tell anti Muslim jokes - “I’m not that **** stupid”

TBF to the vast majority of TFF, I would say that you are pretty good at self moderating but @delilah has raised an issue which is worthy of debate and I am happy to leave it in Agricultural Matters PROVIDED you boys & girls keep it civil please

I think, a lot of the offence that people take from comments on line, are because generally people refuse to accept their own shadow self (Carl Jung) and project the shadow self onto others, and then, get offended by the other. This is not always the case, but I believe it often is. To become a fully functioning integrated individual, we have to accept and acknowledge our shadow selves.

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yoki · Apr 21, 2024

Ffermer Bach said:
I would add, that yes there are 66k members (I presume, haven't checked), however if the membership is represented by the attendees at the agricultural events I go to (mart, groundswell, farm sales), I would guess that most members are white middle aged men. UK is a multiracial country, however, I really only ever see a coloured person running a takeaway and both my children attended schools where everyone was white. And I must admit, I have never seen a man wearing a dress on a building site in West Wales either!!!

"Clarksons Farm" series one, episode one.

At a farm sale in the Cotswolds, "Amazon said they wanted diversity and we're doing that, there's every type of white 60yr old male here that you ever imagine".

betweenthelines · Apr 21, 2024

I have to agree with most of the OP.

Virtually every post on immigration is either openly or covertly racist. Some of the so called jokes would not be out of place at a KKK meeting, and for a section of society that probably spends more time with their canine companion, the RoW/public access threads are stunning.

Parts of TFF seem to be a forum for people to vent the feelings they never would in public.

Which is surprising as farmers in the real world allow themselves to be the most "put upon" group in society.

Ffermer Bach · Apr 21, 2024

Red Fred said:
I'm one as well, but ever since a member WHO USED TO TALK IN CAPITALS said that we should all be shot, I have been in the closet.
And no, I don't know any cabinet ministers, my mates are all perfectly normal members of society and I was never propositioned by the history teacher behind the boat shed. The only Earl I ever met is my landlord. In fact it was a hoot but it seems to have become a sort of general slur after the actions of our politicians and in interviews, former pupils feed the common perception by apologising and pretending they suffered in some way.

My beef with a public school education, is the pupils end up getting a lot of cultural and social capital. Society then claims that we are a meritocracy, and those at the top got there by their own merit, without thinking that people who didn't attend schools where you obtain these types of capital have a built in disadvantage.

Social Capital vs. Cultural Capital: Understand Their Role in the Workplace

Leveraging social capital vs. cultural capital can supercharge your career. Here’s everything you need to know about these concepts.

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nonemouse · Apr 21, 2024

melted welly said:
* preferred pronoun is “muppet”

Don’t be offending us muppets, by lumping that member with us

teslacoils · Apr 21, 2024

BBC thinks it's a news story because someone told the leader of a Jewish organisation to maybe not go wander into the middle of a very large, pro Palestine rally. Folk saying the chief of the met should resign over it. Absolutely world gone crackers now.

bluebell said:
What i now see on the streets of our capital london has now gone to far the other way? People bully, intimidate and demand that their views are the right ones? If you dont agree you are somehow the enemy, and our police just stand aside and let this happen? Free speech for who?

yorkie · Apr 21, 2024

Ffermer Bach said:
or gypsies

do you no that for a fact , from a book about grosmont people , my great grandfather
Some of the photos are wonderfully evocative, such as that of an elderly man with a bushy white beard and greatcoat standing in a field, clutching the hand of a little girl. The photograph, taken in 1902 at harvest time, shows a "field of wheat stooked up to dry out", Mr Williamson writes. "The fields had to be cut with horses and binder."

Above all the book recalls some of the village's characters from days long past. None were more colourful than Zachariah 'Zachy' Swales, who lived at Waterloo Cottages in the village.

A talented footballer, Zachy and his wife were well-known as pedlars "who covered a ten mile radius selling their wares", Mr Williamson writes.

"Zachariah maintained that he could travel at a speed of five miles an hour all day, covering rough ground, carrying his basket on his head".

Usually, his basket contained household goods such as pots, pans, cups, jugs and cutlery.

But on one memorable occasion, for a bet, he carried 100 old horseshoes from Stockton Market to Wharfedale Street - it took four men just to lift the load on to and off his head.

Another time, meeting a man in York who was carrying six baskets of plums on his head, he promptly set off carrying 12 baskets - with his hands in his pockets.

These prodigious feats seem not to have harmed him at all. He died in Whitby Hospital on December 18 1946 at 75 - a "fine old gentleman", as the book puts it.

- The Grosmont Millennium: Reflections and Recollections is available from the author, priced £9.50 (£10.90 including postage and packing). Write to Yeoman Williamson, Alum Garth, Front Street, Grosmont, Whitby, YO22 5PF.

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