2nd hand slurry tower

[Lewis]

Anybody had any dealings with putting up second hand slurry towers? Ever reggretted putting one up? We have found one that will fulfill our needs just wondering if going second hand is faulse economy over new!!??

TIA​

 

[Cowabunga]

Any chips in the enamel will soon rust through into a hole, so damage-free sheets are essential.

 

[RobFZS]

how much for a fairly reasonable sized one new/second hand that would handle 100 dairy cows worth of slurry ?

 

[Cowabunga]

No idea of cost but you will need one 4m or three rings high and 30m across. This depends on class of stock and rainfall inclusion and duration of storage.

 

[Cowabunga]

Oh! And the reception pit should have a week's capacity and assume 10 tons a day production as a starting point.

 

[Walterp]

Plenty seen for sale in this area, usually only about a couple of thousand quid, but I wouldn't like to be the one taking it down and putting it up.

 

[Agri Design]

100 cows milking on cubicles would create 10.5 meter cub a day. So with no existing storage you would need nearly 2000m cub for 180 days. You would then need to add any rain from dirty aprons on and then 300mm freeboard in the store.

As for using second hand you need to be able to guarantee a 20 year design life to do this you normally need to get an engineer to certify it (can be hard and expensive to find an engineer to do this). As said above you need new concrete floor, new bolts, new sealant.

Tends to not work out much cheaper unless you don't count your time and do a lot of the work yourself.

David
Agri Design

 

[Lewis]

The store in question is a 380,000 gal 4 ring Permastore that is on a Turf farm so has been used to hold water for irragation so is in very good condition, currently havent got the model number atm but when we do we will find out its age ect.. It will be dissmanteled and erected by a local company Davies & Parry who specialise in putting up new & second hand stores. As it stands the second hand tower comes to mid £30,000 to be dismantelled and put up and a new one slightly smaller capacity is High £50,000 so talking not far off 40-50% the cost of new!!
thanks for your replys thus far.

 

[Maxxum-man]

We have a 380,000 (i think) gallon permastore, its been in 18 years and well looked after, how old is the one you are looking at? I personally wouldnt put a second hand one in for that price difference, do it once, do it right.

 

[Blue.]

In the late 70s two of our neighbours built concrete block stores they are still in good order now,in 81 my dad put up a tower it did 27years and probably would have done a couple more years if I'd have been prepared to patch it up,I wouldn't dream of putting up a 2nd hand tower,if I was to put a tower up it would be concrete.

As far as the cheapest storage goes you cannot beat a lined lagoon,and if your lucky clay lined.

 

[MickMoor]

If you are GIVEN the store, you will save about 40% of the cost of new, but all other costs are the same, so you only end up saving 10-15% on thewhole job. Hardly worth doing. There can be rare exceptions.

 

[jimmer]

there was a thread on a forum somewhere a chap dug up the concrete of his scrape passages put in a ten or so foot deep pit with slats on top for very similar money to a new tin tank plus no scraping and cleaner cows
just a thought

 

[Lewis]

What are peoples opinions on circular Concrete slurry stores? ie Cravern concrete?

 

[pigdogduck]

I used to work for a company that dealt in circular stores, both steel and concrete. WRT second steel stores, sheets must be damage free else they will rust. Need to consider the cost of dismantling, transport and reerection. Plus bolts and sealant. Also need to know the design features of the tank. Can it be extended? If so from the base or from the top? And to what capacity. What sort of coating does it have? Epoxy, glass etc. And if you need it extending can you find a company who will manufacture the extra ring for you and again at what cost.

We dealt with an Irish firm for the concrete stores. Some customers found it easier to get planning for a steel store because of the colour being less of an eye sore. Other customers found it easy to get planning for either, just seemed to depend where they were. The only disadvantage would be that some of the concrete stores cannot be extended and also you need to consider transport cost from Ireland and the labour to erect the store.

Personally I hate holes in the ground. Have seen too many cows fall in on farms where proper gates and fences were left as an after thought.

 

[MickMoor]

I used to work for a company that dealt in circular stores, both steel and concrete. WRT second steel stores, sheets must be damage free else they will rust. Need to consider the cost of dismantling, transport and reerection. Plus bolts and sealant. Also need to know the design features of the tank. Can it be extended? If so from the base or from the top? And to what capacity. What sort of coating does it have? Epoxy, glass etc. And if you need it extending can you find a company who will manufacture the extra ring for you and again at what cost.

We dealt with an Irish firm for the concrete stores. Some customers found it easier to get planning for a steel store because of the colour being less of an eye sore. Other customers found it easy to get planning for either, just seemed to depend where they were. The only disadvantage would be that some of the concrete stores cannot be extended and also you need to consider transport cost from Ireland and the labour to erect the store.

Personally I hate holes in the ground. Have seen too many cows fall in on farms where proper gates and fences were left as an after thought.

Don't forget the cost of cleaning all the old mastic off the sheets before re-erecting can commence. It will mount up to a few thousand to do it properly, and if not done properly, the joints will be no good.