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<blockquote data-quote="Born lucky" data-source="post: 7470666" data-attributes="member: 156902"><p>Thanks - didn’t realise there was another thread which have now read. Really interesting and thanks for starting and to all those that posted. As many many will know there is lots more information on what the pilots for the sustainable farming incentive bit of ELMS may look like out there now and the chance to express interest in signing up for pilots is now up and running. I say ‘may’ as the current way the scheme is laid out is a ‘first go’ to be shaped and improved not just during the pilots but hopefully ongoing as, love or hate EU exit, this is in our hands now and not set in seven year stone like CAP policy. Will ELMS be perfect? No. Will it be rubbish? Hopefully not. Will it be massively better if farmers sign up for the pilots and help Defra make it as good as possible? Absolutely.</p><p>However ELMS ends up it’s unlikely to replace CAP based payments on the bottom line (very unlikely), but hopefully there’ll be things in there to help the bottom line and also help make things better in general (who doesn’t want more wildlife on farm and to think the way they’re farming might be making things better for your children/grandchildren?). It’s already massively hard to keep the cash flowing, deal with the paperwork, markets and weather and still get to see the kids/have some type of life off farm - and that can make finding the time/energy get involved tough, but ELMS has got a potential, and if it does do any good it’ll be farmers, not Government, that make it happen.</p><p>Interested to keep hearing what people think on this - I’m not sure if it’s possible to link me up to any other similar threads, but if so that would be great. Thanks all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Born lucky, post: 7470666, member: 156902"] Thanks - didn’t realise there was another thread which have now read. Really interesting and thanks for starting and to all those that posted. As many many will know there is lots more information on what the pilots for the sustainable farming incentive bit of ELMS may look like out there now and the chance to express interest in signing up for pilots is now up and running. I say ‘may’ as the current way the scheme is laid out is a ‘first go’ to be shaped and improved not just during the pilots but hopefully ongoing as, love or hate EU exit, this is in our hands now and not set in seven year stone like CAP policy. Will ELMS be perfect? No. Will it be rubbish? Hopefully not. Will it be massively better if farmers sign up for the pilots and help Defra make it as good as possible? Absolutely. However ELMS ends up it’s unlikely to replace CAP based payments on the bottom line (very unlikely), but hopefully there’ll be things in there to help the bottom line and also help make things better in general (who doesn’t want more wildlife on farm and to think the way they’re farming might be making things better for your children/grandchildren?). It’s already massively hard to keep the cash flowing, deal with the paperwork, markets and weather and still get to see the kids/have some type of life off farm - and that can make finding the time/energy get involved tough, but ELMS has got a potential, and if it does do any good it’ll be farmers, not Government, that make it happen. Interested to keep hearing what people think on this - I’m not sure if it’s possible to link me up to any other similar threads, but if so that would be great. Thanks all. [/QUOTE]
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