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<blockquote data-quote="Goweresque" data-source="post: 2087446" data-attributes="member: 818"><p>To be honest, Stalin saved us. </p><p></p><p>If Stalin wasn't an AAA grade psychopath, prepared to treat his own people like cattle, to pour them into a meat grinder on the off chance a bone might just jam the mechanism for an hour or two, then Hitler defeats Russia inside a year and a bit, and the majority of the 150 German divisions that were on the Eastern front in June 1944 would be sat in France, with the 60 odd that were already there, waiting for an Allied invasion. The Western Allies never faced more than 80 German divisions, and it was touch and go even then. Give the Wehrmacht another 50 divisions and 1000 tanks, the Luftwaffe another 1000 planes, and the oil flowing freely from the Caucasus to fuel them all, and there is no VE day, regardless of the might of the USA.</p><p></p><p>The US and British public would not have stood for a quarter of the sort of losses that the Russians endured. Even at the end they were losing men at the same rate as the Germans. Faced with those sort of losses the Allies would have been forced to sue for peace, maybe getting France back with a Nazi sympathetic government, and Hitler in charge of the rest of Europe.</p><p></p><p>Europe's freedom from Nazism rests on a mountain of Russian skulls.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goweresque, post: 2087446, member: 818"] To be honest, Stalin saved us. If Stalin wasn't an AAA grade psychopath, prepared to treat his own people like cattle, to pour them into a meat grinder on the off chance a bone might just jam the mechanism for an hour or two, then Hitler defeats Russia inside a year and a bit, and the majority of the 150 German divisions that were on the Eastern front in June 1944 would be sat in France, with the 60 odd that were already there, waiting for an Allied invasion. The Western Allies never faced more than 80 German divisions, and it was touch and go even then. Give the Wehrmacht another 50 divisions and 1000 tanks, the Luftwaffe another 1000 planes, and the oil flowing freely from the Caucasus to fuel them all, and there is no VE day, regardless of the might of the USA. The US and British public would not have stood for a quarter of the sort of losses that the Russians endured. Even at the end they were losing men at the same rate as the Germans. Faced with those sort of losses the Allies would have been forced to sue for peace, maybe getting France back with a Nazi sympathetic government, and Hitler in charge of the rest of Europe. Europe's freedom from Nazism rests on a mountain of Russian skulls. [/QUOTE]
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