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<blockquote data-quote="The Widow" data-source="post: 3631084" data-attributes="member: 67382"><p>Dear Patrick, I have called myself The Widow to remind you about the time you gave me on the phone on Christmas Eve 2014 as I told you how I had cared for my husband until he died, through cancer, and had decided to use some of his inheritance to me in your bonds. How you let me know how I could trust you and this was a strong and robust investment I had with you through Swan, who sent me the forms for my money. You said because of telling you about my Bob, we were "joined at the hip" and you would help me, the only help I seem to have had from you was the encouragement to take my investment out from Beaufort, what you hadn't told me was that because it was now on the Cypriot stock exchange, I could not. You didn't help me very hard over Beauforts, or explain what a very high risk investment I was making. Not once when I talked to you for over an hour on that Christmas Eve, having parted with 20K of my widow's inheritance, and was calling you in a panic over what I had done, not once did you suggest to me that I might still be grieving and perhaps this wasn't (as it wasn't) a suitable investment for a beginner, you let me continue with it and let me believe I could take it out whenever I wanted which was so untrue, I was stuck. I have no doubt that money gave someone a lovely commission, it gave me a nervous breakdown. I have tried to reason with you and trust you, like I trusted my dear Bob, but have got nowhere fast. I have tried to contact you only a couple of days ago. You have not replied to my email, so here it is again, perhaps you can reply to it on here for me?</p><p>To Patrick Moran</p><p>I know this is a blast from the past a bit, but although it was Billy I met up in Canary Wharf, my nominee form came from Swan and I was dealing with Arun Joseph from Swan and paid via Swan, showing them my passport and a utility bill. When I spoke to you that time on Christmas Eve, you told me it was Swan you were with. I never paid Billy Wheatley anything. He was just a guy I met at Canary Wharf because you weren't available. I have the form I had to E sign through Swan with their logo on it. I am trawling back through my emails as this whole thing seems to be getting messier and messier. One mail I have from you said to contact Ray Holton at Beaufort, who could be trusted,</p><p>"<em>Bev, as you are in the listed bond you are in the 10 year bond so exit is at 31 March 2025. It is better to issue a statutory demand to get your money back as it is now clearly a PONZI scheme.</em></p><p><em>Beaufort are supposed to have 3 months coupon in escrow at all times, can you enquire from Ray Holton if this is in place. Also assets are still at risk as they are not secured. I would add that I know Ray Holton from Beaufort well and had a good relationship with him, he is a good and honest man, so maybe you can get some satisfaction. Regards, Patrick"</em></p><p>. This is rather alarming!! That was last May. I suppose it could be said that Billy thought it was a good idea, although he seemed a little 'shifty' in hindsight, but nevertheless it was Swan who I dealt with and who sent me the paperwork following my long discussion with you on Christmas eve over my late husband etc, so are Swan still going, do you know? I wondered if it was worth going back to them to sort this muddle out!!</p><p></p><p>Could you reply to this for me please? Ray Holton, I might add, was not interested in you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Widow, post: 3631084, member: 67382"] Dear Patrick, I have called myself The Widow to remind you about the time you gave me on the phone on Christmas Eve 2014 as I told you how I had cared for my husband until he died, through cancer, and had decided to use some of his inheritance to me in your bonds. How you let me know how I could trust you and this was a strong and robust investment I had with you through Swan, who sent me the forms for my money. You said because of telling you about my Bob, we were "joined at the hip" and you would help me, the only help I seem to have had from you was the encouragement to take my investment out from Beaufort, what you hadn't told me was that because it was now on the Cypriot stock exchange, I could not. You didn't help me very hard over Beauforts, or explain what a very high risk investment I was making. Not once when I talked to you for over an hour on that Christmas Eve, having parted with 20K of my widow's inheritance, and was calling you in a panic over what I had done, not once did you suggest to me that I might still be grieving and perhaps this wasn't (as it wasn't) a suitable investment for a beginner, you let me continue with it and let me believe I could take it out whenever I wanted which was so untrue, I was stuck. I have no doubt that money gave someone a lovely commission, it gave me a nervous breakdown. I have tried to reason with you and trust you, like I trusted my dear Bob, but have got nowhere fast. I have tried to contact you only a couple of days ago. You have not replied to my email, so here it is again, perhaps you can reply to it on here for me? To Patrick Moran I know this is a blast from the past a bit, but although it was Billy I met up in Canary Wharf, my nominee form came from Swan and I was dealing with Arun Joseph from Swan and paid via Swan, showing them my passport and a utility bill. When I spoke to you that time on Christmas Eve, you told me it was Swan you were with. I never paid Billy Wheatley anything. He was just a guy I met at Canary Wharf because you weren't available. I have the form I had to E sign through Swan with their logo on it. I am trawling back through my emails as this whole thing seems to be getting messier and messier. One mail I have from you said to contact Ray Holton at Beaufort, who could be trusted, "[I]Bev, as you are in the listed bond you are in the 10 year bond so exit is at 31 March 2025. It is better to issue a statutory demand to get your money back as it is now clearly a PONZI scheme. Beaufort are supposed to have 3 months coupon in escrow at all times, can you enquire from Ray Holton if this is in place. Also assets are still at risk as they are not secured. I would add that I know Ray Holton from Beaufort well and had a good relationship with him, he is a good and honest man, so maybe you can get some satisfaction. Regards, Patrick"[/I] . This is rather alarming!! That was last May. I suppose it could be said that Billy thought it was a good idea, although he seemed a little 'shifty' in hindsight, but nevertheless it was Swan who I dealt with and who sent me the paperwork following my long discussion with you on Christmas eve over my late husband etc, so are Swan still going, do you know? I wondered if it was worth going back to them to sort this muddle out!! Could you reply to this for me please? Ray Holton, I might add, was not interested in you. [/QUOTE]
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