Cheap foreign labour.......Really.

[Clever Dic]

It was brought home to me today by two different people how embedded is the view that if you are employing Czech/Polish / Eastern European staff you are obviously doing it because you pay them little work them hard and put them up to live in chicken sheds. Is that really happening now.? I employ 6-8 Czech guys every year for 4-5 months the vast majority come back every year,this year one guy will be on his 13th season. I pay them what is fair and what they are worth ....which is very well ,I would genuinely really struggle to replace my guys they bring skill ,good manners and attitude plus an excellent work ethic. If I wanted cheap I would use the local unemployed which having tried once is anything but cheap and guaranteed to bring on blood pressure. I post this as I know a few other local establishments that use this labour pool and all speak highly and pay accordingly.
So my question is are myself and my neighbors the exception or is it just the myth for the lazy and uninformed to repeat.
On another selfish note quite starting to lean to Brexit but still want my staff . Cake and eat it.

 

[RobFZS]

If we were to leave, surely they could easily apply for a work visa's such as the lads here do to go to nz over the winter

 

[Ashtree]

If we were to leave, surely they could easily apply for a work visa's such as the lads here do to go to nz over the winter

What? More bureaucracy[emoji53]
You will make the pen pushers in Brussels look like lean mean machines!!

 

[Tim W]

You are not alone---the best workers that I come across on farms are Polish, Czech, Romanian etc

It is a feature of migrants rather than where they come from
People who migrate to find work are willing to work

I know this from experience as I spent 14+ years as a migrant working on farms across the globe ---the local ''workers'' always have something to fall back on whereas the foreign worker has to work and wants to work

 

[Bruce Almighty]

Pay peanuts get monkeys

In my experience, most East Europeans are sharp enough not to be ripped off.
Equally, good employers appreciate them & reward them accordingly.

It's such a pity so many of our fellow countrymen would rather live on benefits, watch TV & smoke dope than work for a living

 

[Pan mixer]

You have no need to worry there will be droves of unemployed eurocrats shipped home to Britain when we Brexit

 

[Kidds]

I employ Eastern Europeans, they are not cheap labour and cost isn't much of a factor anyway. They turn up when I want them to, I never have to wait for them nor do I ever get let down by them. They work hard and rarely complain about much (rain mostly).
They come and go but there's lads on 4th, 5th, 6th year with us.

Brits want twice as much money for half the work and no telling if they will turn up or not, often late with the most stupid of excuses such as its the third anniversary of their hamster dying or similar.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I employ Eastern Europeans, they are not cheap labour and cost isn't much of a factor anyway. They turn up when I want them to, I never have to wait for them nor do I ever get let down by them. They work hard and rarely complain about much (rain mostly).
They come and go but there's lads on 4th, 5th, 6th year with us.

Brits want twice as much money for half the work and no telling if they will turn up or not, often late with the most stupid of excuses such as its the third anniversary of their hamster dying or similar.

That sounds just like the people I used to work with in London, had one guy "snowed in" for a week unable to get to work from just the one day of snow that they had in 1990/91 in London

 

[Kidds]

Before Romania joined the EU we had folk from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Estonia (pre EU membership) etc.
There was a government scheme that allowed them in for seasonal farm work, that was withdrawn when Romania joined and we had to have them as they were in Europe now.

 

[Old Boar]

So where do people get their work ethic? Is it from their parents or the wider social environment?

 

[JD-Kid]

mate of mine is tied up with a large market garden large is not the word huge would be a better word they use a lot of temps alot of back packers etc ..
intresting who they will employ they tell the contractor that supplys them none from a lot of areas due to there work style and ethic's ..
alot are there just to make money and go home not get on the pi55 party with there mates etc

 

[Kidds]

So where do people get their work ethic? Is it from their parents or the wider social environment?

Hunger is the answer to that one imo.
It is generally the hungry ones that work best, that could range from genuine hunger to hunger for a better life. The ones mollycoddled by their parents are the ones that don't want to work.

 

[Baker9]

One of my brothers had graduated as a Quantity surveyor on 1984, thee was no work here so he went to London and got a job with Murphys working in the Sewers. One Friday night he was in the local pub in Lewisham when some of the locals started complaining about all the Paddys coming over and taking their jobs and women. Our guy when he got pee'd off enough told the moron what he did, what his qualifications were and to be honest from what he saw of their women they could keep them. Guy told him " I Wouldn't do that job, its too dirty". Our boy says "that why you need the Paddys, we keep you from drowning in your own excrement".
Any man or woman that emigrates to get work is willing to work, by moving to another country they have proved that they are willing to get off their behinds and work.
By the way after 12 months he got a job in his specialty in London, met a Canadian girl and in his own words followed her back to Canada like a love struck puppy. He is now married to her, they have two sons and he is the director of a large construction company in Toronto.
You do not have to be an East European to be an Immigrant.

 

[david]

@Old Boar

Eastern Europeans have a good work ethic, based from their own countries - 'if you don't work - you starve'. Simple as that.

If the lazy b@stards don't want to work in this country they can have the choice of living on the benefits system.

Time it ended

 

[joe soapy]

Lot of it is environmental, as shown on the tv program that took some townies to work
on the aussie sheep stations. They soon got up to speed when they had to, and realized the benefits of working

 

[7610 super q]

Money doesn't come into it. People want work, or they don't. 2 generations ago, the UK workforce was keen and hardworking, even those on and off benefits. What's changed in the last 20 years, I don't know.
Employing East Europeans isn't all that great either. They work hard when they want to, and understand English when they want to. Also watching them reverse at high speed with a trailer out onto a busy road is an eye opener....

 

[frustratedfarmer]

I have 2 full time poles at the moment, they love what they do, get bored sitting at home and enjoy doing the best job they can.

It's a pleasure to work with them and they earn the same as any other subby really.

I find it hard to believe that 'all the jobs are taken' . If a Brit wants a job he can compete with am eastern block guy if he wants, language barrier for starters gives him an advantage.

They are just lazy and CBA.