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<blockquote data-quote="Danllan" data-source="post: 8044515" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>Hmm... at 6:35 he claims that the UK is in the EU, which seems a bit odd... to put it mildly. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😐" title="Neutral face :neutral_face:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.5/png/unicode/64/1f610.png" data-shortname=":neutral_face:" /></p><p></p><p>His comments regarding Nigel Farage and Ukraine are bang on; but he seems in a bit of a self-justifying loop regarding the rest of the Brexit question. Nick Ferrari should have asked him how many times the EU had changed agreements... but he didn't. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite44" alt=":banghead:" title="Bang Head :banghead:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":banghead:" /></p><p></p><p>That aside I agree with a fair bit of what he said, but he is speaking from the luxury of irrelevance. By that I mean he is in the same position as an opposition leader, he can say '<em>This should / must be done</em>', when he won't have to implement it, and won't be held to account for any consequences of it. Most of the EU simply can't stop using Russian energy as he insists, they are oil economies, end the importation now and the schools won't open, hospitals won't open, industry will stop. No, the proposed phasing out looks about right, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it is achieved on schedule.</p><p></p><p>His call for a complete EU defence system sounds reasonable, until you look at it carefully. What about the ROI, which won't arm the Ukrainians when desperate, what about Austria, what about Finnish and Swedish neutrality - admittedly that might change...? Does anyone really think that France can be <u>fully</u> integrated into such an organisation, impossible because it will <u>never</u> surrender its nuclear deterrent. And who will have command? Nobody will be able to rationally argue that it is or ever has been in any way a good thing for there to be an armed force without people who are democratically accountable being in command. So that's the EC and its president out, the EP... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite20" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" />... seriously?</p><p></p><p>Which leaves the European Council, again a reasonable sounding idea, but... would there have to be unanimity, simple majority, qualified majority or what? It's very, very hard to imagine any country who bitterly opposes a given military adventure allowing its own people and money to be part of it.</p><p></p><p>But of course this is the fellow who has said that the EU is an empire, and that empires are undemocratic, and that democracy is a fundamental human right, and that the EU is founded on human rights... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite26" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danllan, post: 8044515, member: 8735"] Hmm... at 6:35 he claims that the UK is in the EU, which seems a bit odd... to put it mildly. 😐 His comments regarding Nigel Farage and Ukraine are bang on; but he seems in a bit of a self-justifying loop regarding the rest of the Brexit question. Nick Ferrari should have asked him how many times the EU had changed agreements... but he didn't. :banghead: That aside I agree with a fair bit of what he said, but he is speaking from the luxury of irrelevance. By that I mean he is in the same position as an opposition leader, he can say '[I]This should / must be done[/I]', when he won't have to implement it, and won't be held to account for any consequences of it. Most of the EU simply can't stop using Russian energy as he insists, they are oil economies, end the importation now and the schools won't open, hospitals won't open, industry will stop. No, the proposed phasing out looks about right, but I'll be pleasantly surprised if it is achieved on schedule. His call for a complete EU defence system sounds reasonable, until you look at it carefully. What about the ROI, which won't arm the Ukrainians when desperate, what about Austria, what about Finnish and Swedish neutrality - admittedly that might change...? Does anyone really think that France can be [U]fully[/U] integrated into such an organisation, impossible because it will [U]never[/U] surrender its nuclear deterrent. And who will have command? Nobody will be able to rationally argue that it is or ever has been in any way a good thing for there to be an armed force without people who are democratically accountable being in command. So that's the EC and its president out, the EP... :ROFLMAO:... seriously? Which leaves the European Council, again a reasonable sounding idea, but... would there have to be unanimity, simple majority, qualified majority or what? It's very, very hard to imagine any country who bitterly opposes a given military adventure allowing its own people and money to be part of it. But of course this is the fellow who has said that the EU is an empire, and that empires are undemocratic, and that democracy is a fundamental human right, and that the EU is founded on human rights... :unsure: [/QUOTE]
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