Drilling grass seed with Claydon Hybrid?

[Rob Holmes]

Just wondering whether we have time to reseed some established grassland using Claydon?

Which is best, to spay off with Glyphosate and leave to die tottaly back or can i go in after a couple of days whilst grass is still green?

How deep do i have the leading tines?

Best boots and seeding tines? I'm thinking splitter boot with 7 inch A share?

Should i put a starter fert in with it too?

Any other info gratefully recieved

@charlie@claydon

 

[rob1]

I did some spring 2013 with the 7 inch into some overwintered rape and wheat stubble, didnt have the front tine on, drilled some crossways and some just one way. Never tried it in old turf yet so cant help there

 

[Devon James]

It should be ok for a short term ley but if want a billiard table finish it may be a bit bumpy. I would go 1/2 worn a shares. Leading tines as for wheat?
We planted homebrew cc mix with westerwolds last year. Sheep grazed it all winter now had 3 cuts of silage then back to wheat.
The prob you may have is getting the a shares to run shallow enough through the old sward so not to put the seed too deep.

 

[charlie@horizon]

A little tip for you chaps, if you need to run the A Share reasonably deep to create enough tilth but the seed is therefore going to deep; take the seed boot off and just blow the seed it on top of the tilth. I think that would work well for grass, some of our customers up in Scotland have been doing that for OSR establishment and it works a treat

 

[Niels]

Can also tilt the drill forward a little by shortening the toplink so the rear ends of the A-share are above the soil and make them blow the seed over a wider band creating a more denser crop. Have done this with italian rye grass as a cover crop so didn't need to have an A+ result like you would expect with a grass ley. Get a similar result like Charlie is saying.

Drilling in old turf I only have experience of wheat going into a thick mat of grass that was sprayed off and left a while. Wasn't totally dead but about 14 days on? Used a partly worn A-share just slicing underneath the grass and worked well.

 

[Rob Holmes]

Would you take the leading tine off, or does it lift sufficiently out of the way?

 

[Niels]

If you have any issues with residue wrapping around the leg I would take them out but we didn't have any issues drilling into grass and put them at normal 'wheat depth' i.e 5 to 7 cm.

 

[nick channer]

A little tip for you chaps, if you need to run the A Share reasonably deep to create enough tilth but the seed is therefore going to deep; take the seed boot off and just blow the seed it on top of the tilth. I think that would work well for grass, some of our customers up in Scotland have been doing that for OSR establishment and it works a treat

did this with corner of 20 acre field drilling rape
def looks better and every plant up
will use 3inch spoon next time with pipe off and cable tied and use double harrows
cant get on at all with batter boards and our flints
they bulldoze in front causing major blockages
have them lifted out work now with just rear harrows in work

 

[charlie@horizon]

did this with corner of 20 acre field drilling rape
def looks better and every plant up
will use 3inch spoon next time with pipe off and cable tied and use double harrows
cant get on at all with batter boards and our flints
they bulldoze in front causing major blockages
have them lifted out work now with just rear harrows in work

Hi Nick, could 2 rows of Green Harrows work better?

 

[nick channer]

Y

Hi Nick, could 2 rows of Green Harrows work better?

Yes mate
That is what I asked for when I bought drill up to u but got my old batter boards back with harrows behind!!
There was bit misunderstanding I think..
Batter boards work ever so well on our gravely and light ground but some flints we have are as big or bigger than your foot and block them.
Will fit another set tines in winter
Boards do firm it down better but we been flat rolling any light land with our Watson fold up rolls to get it down better.

 

[MDA]

DTS sowing grass into existing sward using the standard 5" double shoot coulter to a depth of around 1-1.5" and the front loosening leg set at 6-7" shattering depth. No need to wait for the sward to die off, get it in early and keep the moisture.