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<blockquote data-quote="Simon C" data-source="post: 5850888" data-attributes="member: 319"><p>I have been a fan of the Cross-Slot principal ever since Baker's No-Tillage book came out because there is no question it is ultimate way of putting seed in the ground at consistent depth with minimal disturbance in any conditions. </p><p></p><p>Unfortunately I am starting to hear a few horror stories 2 or 3 years after they suddenly became popular. One guy with slugs everywhere, can't get on top of them; another has compacted headlands and water standing all over the place; another has gone out and bought a low disturbance subsoiler for "occasional" use. If you are three years into building a perfect natural soil structure, why would you want to subsoil it and put you back to square one.</p><p></p><p>There is a major flaw in the design. The winged coulters need to be on the front of the disc so that it's side is traveling down when the seeds is dropped rather than the back where it is coming up, which would bring seed out of the slot again. This means that the disc has to be in the ground two inches deeper than where you want the seed to end up. So there is the problem, huge amounts of weight are needed to get the discs in the ground and then massive power to pull the thing along, not just because of the draft from cutting slots 4 inches deep, but also from moving it's shear weight. It doesn't end there, the drills are pretty well balanced, so the tractor doesn't get and weight transfer through the drawbar and so has to be heavy enough in it's own rite to get enough grip through it's tires or tracks.</p><p></p><p>You end up with a 20 ton monster, the complete opposite of what you need to allow a natural structure to develop. Sorry, I get fed up with people bragging about their own drills, but you have to compare this with my Sim-Tech being carried on a small tractor shod with a pair of 1.2m wide terra tyres, it is no heavier that a quad bike or walking across your field in trainers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simon C, post: 5850888, member: 319"] I have been a fan of the Cross-Slot principal ever since Baker's No-Tillage book came out because there is no question it is ultimate way of putting seed in the ground at consistent depth with minimal disturbance in any conditions. Unfortunately I am starting to hear a few horror stories 2 or 3 years after they suddenly became popular. One guy with slugs everywhere, can't get on top of them; another has compacted headlands and water standing all over the place; another has gone out and bought a low disturbance subsoiler for "occasional" use. If you are three years into building a perfect natural soil structure, why would you want to subsoil it and put you back to square one. There is a major flaw in the design. The winged coulters need to be on the front of the disc so that it's side is traveling down when the seeds is dropped rather than the back where it is coming up, which would bring seed out of the slot again. This means that the disc has to be in the ground two inches deeper than where you want the seed to end up. So there is the problem, huge amounts of weight are needed to get the discs in the ground and then massive power to pull the thing along, not just because of the draft from cutting slots 4 inches deep, but also from moving it's shear weight. It doesn't end there, the drills are pretty well balanced, so the tractor doesn't get and weight transfer through the drawbar and so has to be heavy enough in it's own rite to get enough grip through it's tires or tracks. You end up with a 20 ton monster, the complete opposite of what you need to allow a natural structure to develop. Sorry, I get fed up with people bragging about their own drills, but you have to compare this with my Sim-Tech being carried on a small tractor shod with a pair of 1.2m wide terra tyres, it is no heavier that a quad bike or walking across your field in trainers. [/QUOTE]
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