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Ford 3 Cylinder in Sanderson Forklift - Water in Sump
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<blockquote data-quote="Pennine Ploughing" data-source="post: 6751364" data-attributes="member: 999"><p>Right, so here goes, you say water in the sump, so how did it get there, </p><p>Well if it a porous block let's say the liners, now if it's porous on the compression side of piston, it will purchase bubbles into the water jacket, more commonly seen in the rad, but bubbles in rad could also mean a head gasket as well,</p><p>If porous below compression in liner it will leak into the sump,</p><p>A hair line crack in liner may mean it won't leak when cold, there is a difference between a porous hole and a hair line crack as a crack can open or close due to temperature on the steel, </p><p>There is also core plugs in the head that may leak water in to the sump, look very carefully at them as they rust from the inside to outside, may look very good and sound where the oil is in contact with them, but rusted away on inside, ,</p><p>Other point of a leak could be from the camshaft gallery, again if porous would not really seal up, a crack would, but a crack in this area is very slim,</p><p>You have tried what you can without going further into it, so whip the head off and inspect the head gasket to see if any tell tale signs of it leaking, if no sign at all of it being at fault, then remove pistons and then block the bottom hose with something to hold water, fill with really hot water and leave for 5 mins, then drain, and refill block again with really hot water and antifreeze 50 50 mix, this should find the leak, and if you turn engine over this will help to find the leak in the camshaft area, </p><p>Once a mate had a leak in the camshaft area, he drilled and taped it and threaded a short bolt in in, and fixed it , if a liner, then bore out in situ and pass in a liner, and re bore to original size for a standard piston, core plugs and head gasket, well you will know what to do there,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pennine Ploughing, post: 6751364, member: 999"] Right, so here goes, you say water in the sump, so how did it get there, Well if it a porous block let's say the liners, now if it's porous on the compression side of piston, it will purchase bubbles into the water jacket, more commonly seen in the rad, but bubbles in rad could also mean a head gasket as well, If porous below compression in liner it will leak into the sump, A hair line crack in liner may mean it won't leak when cold, there is a difference between a porous hole and a hair line crack as a crack can open or close due to temperature on the steel, There is also core plugs in the head that may leak water in to the sump, look very carefully at them as they rust from the inside to outside, may look very good and sound where the oil is in contact with them, but rusted away on inside, , Other point of a leak could be from the camshaft gallery, again if porous would not really seal up, a crack would, but a crack in this area is very slim, You have tried what you can without going further into it, so whip the head off and inspect the head gasket to see if any tell tale signs of it leaking, if no sign at all of it being at fault, then remove pistons and then block the bottom hose with something to hold water, fill with really hot water and leave for 5 mins, then drain, and refill block again with really hot water and antifreeze 50 50 mix, this should find the leak, and if you turn engine over this will help to find the leak in the camshaft area, Once a mate had a leak in the camshaft area, he drilled and taped it and threaded a short bolt in in, and fixed it , if a liner, then bore out in situ and pass in a liner, and re bore to original size for a standard piston, core plugs and head gasket, well you will know what to do there, [/QUOTE]
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