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<blockquote data-quote="Farfrae" data-source="post: 5117010" data-attributes="member: 778"><p>As one of those 'lefties' most of you probably love to hate I must say there is a fair bit of drivel here. What exactly is 'our country' to start with and who are the 'we'? In any event it is nothing other than a bit of insignificant land on an an insignificant planet in a unimagineable universe where insignificant beings fight and scrap over resources.</p><p></p><p>The UK has done more than it's fair share of raping and pilaging other countries, imposing itself on them through force and destroying cultures to seize their resources. Our imperialistic past is truly shameful. Having told the populations of those countries that we plundered that they were now British you can hardly blame them for them coming to 'their' country.</p><p></p><p>Then when the labour of those people could be useful to us we have happily allowed them here to toil to create the growth that fuels our comfortable lives, stock markets and pension pots. Chinese immigration to the United Kingdom began during the early 19th century but you don't hear much about that because they are considered hard working and keep themselves to themselves. Subsequent waves of immigration from the colonies we pilaged came and grafted and we respond by telling them to 'prove they worked here' (Windrush). In more recent times the east europeans came to the UK and I've seen many posts extolling the work ethic of Polish builders and workers. They certainly on average contribute more to the economy than they take out.</p><p></p><p>Of course the whole demonisation of immigrants is to find scapegoats to blame to divert attention away from the wealthy elite in a world where the globe's richest 1% own half the world's wealth. As this elite controls the media and politicians they don't want you looking at how they accrued it, their tax havens, their tax avoidence and the money they generate via the military industrial complex. Constant war is far more profitable than peace. Let's bomb their countries for our own political ends, make loads of money, look suprised when refugees want food and shelter and blame it on immigrants via the Daily Wail. Immigration has become a convenient framework that politicians use to explain away ever growing social and economic insecurities.</p><p></p><p>Personally I live in a global village, people from anywhere in the world are just the same as me and I think that the benefits of immigration to the UK far outweigh any issues. I've travelleed widely in India, Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Bangladesh and Africa etc. and I've not yet met anyone who doesn't want the same basic thing, to provide for their family, educate their children, have food in their belly and healthcare when they need it.</p><p></p><p>I was absolutely delighted the weekend before last when my son married into an Indian family from Leicester. A family who in one generation have gone from arriving with nothing to both children becoming doctors. This nonsense about 'our country' is just that; nonsense. We are all humans who share limited resources and we should be working together to provide a decent world for everyone not just the few (mostly in the west) who accumalate most of the wealth then blame the social consequences on immigrants.</p><p></p><p>The media (check out who controls it) is playing you and wants you blame immigrants. Nothing has changed since the days of Robert Tressll</p><p></p><p><em>“The theories that drunkenness, laziness or inefficiency are the causes of poverty are so many devices invented and fostered by those who are selfishly interested in maintaining the present states of affairs, for the purpose of preventing us from discovering the real causes of our present condition.” </em></p><p></p><p>― Robert Tressell. The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Farfrae, post: 5117010, member: 778"] As one of those 'lefties' most of you probably love to hate I must say there is a fair bit of drivel here. What exactly is 'our country' to start with and who are the 'we'? In any event it is nothing other than a bit of insignificant land on an an insignificant planet in a unimagineable universe where insignificant beings fight and scrap over resources. The UK has done more than it's fair share of raping and pilaging other countries, imposing itself on them through force and destroying cultures to seize their resources. Our imperialistic past is truly shameful. Having told the populations of those countries that we plundered that they were now British you can hardly blame them for them coming to 'their' country. Then when the labour of those people could be useful to us we have happily allowed them here to toil to create the growth that fuels our comfortable lives, stock markets and pension pots. Chinese immigration to the United Kingdom began during the early 19th century but you don't hear much about that because they are considered hard working and keep themselves to themselves. Subsequent waves of immigration from the colonies we pilaged came and grafted and we respond by telling them to 'prove they worked here' (Windrush). In more recent times the east europeans came to the UK and I've seen many posts extolling the work ethic of Polish builders and workers. They certainly on average contribute more to the economy than they take out. Of course the whole demonisation of immigrants is to find scapegoats to blame to divert attention away from the wealthy elite in a world where the globe's richest 1% own half the world's wealth. As this elite controls the media and politicians they don't want you looking at how they accrued it, their tax havens, their tax avoidence and the money they generate via the military industrial complex. Constant war is far more profitable than peace. Let's bomb their countries for our own political ends, make loads of money, look suprised when refugees want food and shelter and blame it on immigrants via the Daily Wail. Immigration has become a convenient framework that politicians use to explain away ever growing social and economic insecurities. Personally I live in a global village, people from anywhere in the world are just the same as me and I think that the benefits of immigration to the UK far outweigh any issues. I've travelleed widely in India, Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Jordan, Bangladesh and Africa etc. and I've not yet met anyone who doesn't want the same basic thing, to provide for their family, educate their children, have food in their belly and healthcare when they need it. I was absolutely delighted the weekend before last when my son married into an Indian family from Leicester. A family who in one generation have gone from arriving with nothing to both children becoming doctors. This nonsense about 'our country' is just that; nonsense. We are all humans who share limited resources and we should be working together to provide a decent world for everyone not just the few (mostly in the west) who accumalate most of the wealth then blame the social consequences on immigrants. The media (check out who controls it) is playing you and wants you blame immigrants. Nothing has changed since the days of Robert Tressll [I]“The theories that drunkenness, laziness or inefficiency are the causes of poverty are so many devices invented and fostered by those who are selfishly interested in maintaining the present states of affairs, for the purpose of preventing us from discovering the real causes of our present condition.” [/I] ― Robert Tressell. The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist. [/QUOTE]
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