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Regenerative Agriculture and Direct Drilling
Regen Ag General Discussion
Is anyone actually continually no-tilling?
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<blockquote data-quote="shakerator" data-source="post: 575091" data-attributes="member: 955"><p>Got some land will be year 4 no till.</p><p></p><p>Great levels of beetle and worm activity. Takes weight ever so well.</p><p>Great yields of beans.</p><p>Ok cereal yields. Black grass control easier</p><p></p><p>BUT</p><p></p><p>Ponding has increased in some areas</p><p>And I don't think as much of applied N goes into the crop.</p><p></p><p>Does it "make" OM to pay me back later? Not convinced....</p><p></p><p>But I don't understand nitrogen very well. Sometimes it seems like a tillage pass can release 100kg/N ....instead of the 30kg often mentioned. It is commonly acknowledged that early days of continuous notill require more N. I would agree with this, but have not seen any evidence of the payback curves.</p><p></p><p>Think the best way to increase OM is not to be obsessed with 100% weed control, some weeds are great soil conditioners and will not cause problems in next crop with decent rotation</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also with regards selective tillage I don't think it makes much difference what implement you use.....6 weeks later you never see a difference! I love the notion so entires explained that sub soiling "let's the water drain through the profile".....HOW??? Surely just drying surface area which can rewet. </p><p></p><p>I do work to a formula though eg if light tillage pass will save roundup and pellets, and pop up fert, tillage may be more benign and cost effective.</p><p></p><p>Also I think the biggest impediment to no till is our culture, SFP, and our markets. I think no till would thrive if the food system returned to local produce serving local markets</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shakerator, post: 575091, member: 955"] Got some land will be year 4 no till. Great levels of beetle and worm activity. Takes weight ever so well. Great yields of beans. Ok cereal yields. Black grass control easier BUT Ponding has increased in some areas And I don't think as much of applied N goes into the crop. Does it "make" OM to pay me back later? Not convinced.... But I don't understand nitrogen very well. Sometimes it seems like a tillage pass can release 100kg/N ....instead of the 30kg often mentioned. It is commonly acknowledged that early days of continuous notill require more N. I would agree with this, but have not seen any evidence of the payback curves. Think the best way to increase OM is not to be obsessed with 100% weed control, some weeds are great soil conditioners and will not cause problems in next crop with decent rotation Also with regards selective tillage I don't think it makes much difference what implement you use.....6 weeks later you never see a difference! I love the notion so entires explained that sub soiling "let's the water drain through the profile".....HOW??? Surely just drying surface area which can rewet. I do work to a formula though eg if light tillage pass will save roundup and pellets, and pop up fert, tillage may be more benign and cost effective. Also I think the biggest impediment to no till is our culture, SFP, and our markets. I think no till would thrive if the food system returned to local produce serving local markets [/QUOTE]
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