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Is there any way we can farm in the UK without subsidies?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lothian" data-source="post: 8745806" data-attributes="member: 51722"><p>One interesting thing to think about when subsidies go (either through being cut or through being inflated away) is "how did your grandad make money?" back in the "good "old days of the depression and 50s-60s.</p><p></p><p>In unsubsidised agriculture the money is made through having higher value, perishable commodities that are harder to bring in from abroad. Dairies are a really good example of this, even in the UK. 70 years ago there were dairy farms everywhere, especially near cities as the cost of transporting milk in from Dumfries or Cumbria was prohibitive, let alone abroad. As it has become easier to move milk across the country it has consolidated in areas where grass can be grown more cheaply than the dry east.</p><p></p><p>If you look at how all these largely tenant farmers bought their farms post war it was because they were involved in an intensive enterprises like dairy, potatoes, vegetables etc. Growing 200 acres of spring barley has never made anybody rich over the last century apart from when it was subsidised during the wars and by the CAP.</p><p></p><p>Try to grow grain more cheaply than the Yanks or the Russians has never really paid in this country and I doubt it will after subsidies go too. Especially when you consider the regulatory hurdles in addition to labour and the cost of land.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lothian, post: 8745806, member: 51722"] One interesting thing to think about when subsidies go (either through being cut or through being inflated away) is "how did your grandad make money?" back in the "good "old days of the depression and 50s-60s. In unsubsidised agriculture the money is made through having higher value, perishable commodities that are harder to bring in from abroad. Dairies are a really good example of this, even in the UK. 70 years ago there were dairy farms everywhere, especially near cities as the cost of transporting milk in from Dumfries or Cumbria was prohibitive, let alone abroad. As it has become easier to move milk across the country it has consolidated in areas where grass can be grown more cheaply than the dry east. If you look at how all these largely tenant farmers bought their farms post war it was because they were involved in an intensive enterprises like dairy, potatoes, vegetables etc. Growing 200 acres of spring barley has never made anybody rich over the last century apart from when it was subsidised during the wars and by the CAP. Try to grow grain more cheaply than the Yanks or the Russians has never really paid in this country and I doubt it will after subsidies go too. Especially when you consider the regulatory hurdles in addition to labour and the cost of land. [/QUOTE]
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