JCB Leccy Loadall (525-60E) on-test

[marco]

Has a small battery really, one thing that would be good if it had the app features like most cars. Were you have it pre heat for a certain time

Fw said the battery was smaller than an electric fiat 500. And 20k dearer than a regular one

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Thank you @Landpower TV for this thread.

It has confirmed that an electric telehandler is not going to work for a farm like ours (200 acre livestock, buy all kit second hand, mix of light and heavy handler workload, can't justify a "second machine for yard duties" let alone at that price).

Once it got to our budget the battery would need replacing and probably cost 3x what we paid for our handler.

 

[Jackov Altraids]

Thank you @Landpower TV for this thread.

It has confirmed that an electric telehandler is not going to work for a farm like ours (200 acre livestock, buy all kit second hand, mix of light and heavy handler workload, can't justify a "second machine for yard duties" let alone at that price).

Once it got to our budget the battery would need replacing and probably cost 3x what we paid for our handler.

The handler would suit me perfectly.

I would definitely be in the market for a second hand one but it is hard to imagine a price point at which it would be viable.
I'm guessing that 5000 cycles of the battery should be the equivalent of 15k hours?

That gives plenty of scope for a used market but there is a huge emphasis on being able to calculate the capability of the well used battery and assessing its 'chargeability'.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

The handler would suit me perfectly.

I would definitely be in the market for a second hand one but it is hard to imagine a price point at which it would be viable.
I'm guessing that 5000 cycles of the battery should be the equivalent of 15k hours?

That gives plenty of scope for a used market but there is a huge emphasis on being able to calculate the capability of the well used battery and assessing its 'chargeability'.

It changes how you view "hours worked" and the age of a machine.

If it's been used lightly (say, in a beef packhouse or arable only farm where it's seldom driven hard) then 10 years old could be only 4k charge cycles.

On a farm where it's loading muck and diet feeders daily it might be charged 2 to 3 times a day so 5 years could be 5k charge cycles!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I intend fully rebuilding our project 7 3CX this winter. I'll probably fit a service exchange engine but I wonder what cost I could replace the engine with a full electric drive for?

 

[Jackov Altraids]

It changes how you view "hours worked" and the age of a machine.

If it's been used lightly (say, in a beef packhouse or arable only farm where it's seldom driven hard) then 10 years old could be only 4k charge cycles.

On a farm where it's loading muck and diet feeders daily it might be charged 2 to 3 times a day so 5 years could be 5k charge cycles!

But given all of our experience of batteries, would a seldom used machine with long periods of battery left uncharged and charged irregularly, be the worst prospect of all?

We like to see machines running when we buy them, in the future will we have to watch them charging?

 

[Tomr10]

I intend fully rebuilding our project 7 3CX this winter. I'll probably fit a service exchange engine but I wonder what cost I could replace the engine with a full electric drive for?

Seen it done with cars, what would people rather emissions devices of electric

 

[Wellytrack]

Taking the fuel cost into consideration, with the price of a full charge compared to that of diesel there probably is potential for a saving on costs compared to its diesel version, however at the initial considerable disadvantage in pricing it will probably take its battery service life to recoup the difference.

5 years from now when the battery capacity is larger, and the unit cost comparable to Diesel or even lower you could see it make much more sense.

When the Nissan Leaf first launched it had a range of 70 miles. Now it’s 200 and the price is less. Similar will happen with these.

 

[Tomr10]

Think the biggest sting is charger price

 

[Wellytrack]

Think the biggest sting is charger price

Yes, it’s hard to make it stack up.*


*Sorry.

 

[LandPowerTV]

Just a little extra information/clarification from JCB -

• The machine comes with a 4000 hours / 2 years warranty as standard
• The battery is covered for 5 years (no cycles limit)
• Battery life (80% of capacity remaining) = 5000 cycles
• 1 charge per day, 365 days per year = 13.69 years
• 2 charges per day, 365 days per year = 6.84 years

 

[sjt01]

Just a little extra information/clarification from JCB -

• The machine comes with a 4000 hours / 2 years warranty as standard
• The battery is covered for 5 years (no cycles limit)
• Battery life (80% of capacity remaining) = 5000 cycles
• 1 charge per day, 365 days per year = 13.69 years
• 2 charges per day, 365 days per year = 6.84 years

You will probably find a difference in battery life between fast charging from 3 phase and overnight charging with the built in charger overnight. Certainly electric cars do better on slow charging, but it depends on exactly what battery chemistry is employed.

 

[Lincoln75]

Personally I reckon for a stock farm they should be great no engine rattling away. Much easier to communicate with anyone else nearby too. Probably not up to buckraking silage but if getting a contractor that wouldn't be an issue.

Even better no carcinogenic fumes., diesel and diesel fumes are the biggest cause of bladder cancer.

Electric fork lifts have been around for decades so why not , as for tractors ploughing I think that will be 5-10 years or so.

 

[Tubbylew]

For the modest amounts of diesel farms use, HVO would be a drop in replacement and is superior in many cases to conventional fuel (cetane number is higher for a start).

I agree, would be a quick and easy swap, perhaps too simple.

 

[Ducati899]

Got this for the weekend

 

[Ducati899]

For us, we never had any grounding out issues.

I was surprised this afternoon how well it traveled when I took it across the fields,was expecting it to ground out in gateways but all fine

 

[LandPowerTV]

Now then everyone. Here's our review video of the 'leccy Loadall'.
Thanks for all of the questions, and hopefully the review video will answer a few more.
Also, in a couple of weeks we are also going to go and have a look at JCB's hydrogen projects which should be interesting. We'll keep you posted!