Late drilling cover crop options ?

[phil]

Please let us know how you get on. I'l heading down the cover crop/DD route so am following the cover crop discussions with interest. I'll be looking to plant some kind of biomass crop after WW in September/October fitting in around autumn cereal drilling.

Of course you'll be paying your royalties on home saved seed...

Sowed black oats as late cover and some conventional oats last week so see what comes, we still have an obligation here to have green cover until December 1st in Ireland
October has been a good month for growth, late sown covers as turned into something worthwhile thankfully

Plenty of bare stubbles about though

 

[Barry]

Because you have to by law. The BSPB does not distinguish between crops not taken to harvest & those that are. When the legislation was written cover crops were not considered.

Direct quote from the BSPB, though not in the public domain

"The law regarding farm saved seed is quite straightforward; if a protected variety is sown then the farm saved seed payment is due, whatever the purpose or outcome.

The only exemption is if you are classed as a small farmer.

The farm saved seed payment is applicable with green manure crops, as the grower still makes a financial gain from the crop.

Sometimes with cover crops a concession is made at the breeders discretion but we need to be satisfied it is a cover crop and that very low seed rates are being used."

http://www.bspb.co.uk/farmsavedseed/index.php
http://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/cover-crops-seed-royalties.35151/
Any developments on this @Barry ?

The statement above still stands, no simplified agreement has been reached between breeders. However, a grower needs to indicate what he has used so if someone contacts the BSPB and says I used just x kilos of this over y hectares then they will charge accordingly. They obviously know that some will decide not to declare what they have done. And whether you think it is right they charge or not on cover crops the fact remains they will take a dim view on people avoiding paying royalty.


Barry

 

[Tractor tom7480]

Cover crop was Direct drilled 65 kg of barra oats / ha. Into spring barley stubbles some green in places. Heavy grass patches spot sprayed 2days prior to drilling. Ground conditions fair...

 

[Louis Mc]

Cover crop was Direct drilled 65 kg of barra oats / ha. Into spring barley stubbles some green in places. Heavy grass patches spot sprayed 2days prior to drilling. Ground conditions fair...View attachment 230702

You could have stretched a bit further than 65..... Like 165 at this time of year

 

[Tractor tom7480]

I disagree.....we all know what cover you gain at 165kgs +...& the associated costs..
The purpose here is to learn what 65kg drilled in cctober delivers.
It should :
A. Prevent soil slump over winter.
B. Retain / reduce nutrient leeching.
C. Manage weed control.
But we will have to wait until February / March 16 for outcome.

 

[cosmagedon]

Is the alleopathic effect as much of an issue when Strip till is involved? The front legs act as a row cleaner sweeping the old crop out of the cultivated zone.

 

[franklin]

1/3 rate of oats, and 1/2 rate winter beans would have been my choice.

 

[phil]

1/3 rate of oats, and 1/2 rate winter beans would have been my choice.

Have done that in the late slot for the last two years and had good success

Only downside is it's necessary to drill

Broadcast 50kg/ha of oats as cover 3 weeks ago, using topdown and biodrill wonder now why I use a drill!

Will get some pics