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<blockquote data-quote="som farmer" data-source="post: 7928147" data-attributes="member: 86168"><p>we had horrendous bacto problems, that the 'experts' couldn't either find, or sort out, spent a couple of thousand, just on swabbing etc, water testing, micro biology. We found the problem - where everyone said it couldn't be, and by chance. That cost us 3 months 1.5ppl ! So a very harsh month or so, even with recognition that it was a 'not straight forward' problem.</p><p> If we had been with Wyke, that would not have been in the penalty bracket, at all. Something of a difference, we really didn't realise, from the contract, but one that can make a huge financial difference, and l rather suspect many others don't realise. And, of course, they use the milk, so basically, cheap milk !</p><p> As milk price rises, you can be sure that all processors are looking at ways, to help reduce the actual headline price, whether that is by constituent breakdown, fat v protein, or penalty brackets etc, cannot really blame them, l suspect they have problems getting extra money, from the retailers. But it does underline the fact, that we should all read the small print in contracts !</p><p></p><p>perhaps the 'sniff' test is more about milk shortages, rather than 'waste', spot milk is rather high. Or even recognition that the milk production is going down, rather than up, something the fert price will encourage. I don't know who has to pay, for 'out of use by' milk, in the shop, s/mkt, probably the processor ! Any discarded once sold, no problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="som farmer, post: 7928147, member: 86168"] we had horrendous bacto problems, that the 'experts' couldn't either find, or sort out, spent a couple of thousand, just on swabbing etc, water testing, micro biology. We found the problem - where everyone said it couldn't be, and by chance. That cost us 3 months 1.5ppl ! So a very harsh month or so, even with recognition that it was a 'not straight forward' problem. If we had been with Wyke, that would not have been in the penalty bracket, at all. Something of a difference, we really didn't realise, from the contract, but one that can make a huge financial difference, and l rather suspect many others don't realise. And, of course, they use the milk, so basically, cheap milk ! As milk price rises, you can be sure that all processors are looking at ways, to help reduce the actual headline price, whether that is by constituent breakdown, fat v protein, or penalty brackets etc, cannot really blame them, l suspect they have problems getting extra money, from the retailers. But it does underline the fact, that we should all read the small print in contracts ! perhaps the 'sniff' test is more about milk shortages, rather than 'waste', spot milk is rather high. Or even recognition that the milk production is going down, rather than up, something the fert price will encourage. I don't know who has to pay, for 'out of use by' milk, in the shop, s/mkt, probably the processor ! Any discarded once sold, no problem. [/QUOTE]
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