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<blockquote data-quote="som farmer" data-source="post: 8222668" data-attributes="member: 86168"><p>with 6 monthly TB testing, its easier to test whole herd x2, NMR won't test within so many day's of a test, we record every 2 months, so its easier to test whole lot.</p><p>have always said acidifying, is meant to kill johnes, and info out there will differ, some say it does, others say it doesn't.</p><p>For anyone buying in cows, johnes is a risk, and surprises us, that our tests come back with low incidence, but one cannot argue with results.</p><p>Back in the late 60's, early 70's, johnes was quite common, usually in channel island herds, as cows changed over to hols, numbers dropped, and through the late 70's through to the 90's, we just didn't see cases. BSE brought it back into focus, again, l think the channel island herds are a problem still. But its a risk you have to monitor, and accept the risk. I think johnes is more prevalent in older cows, and, again i suspect many cattle have been through the system, before it would show up.</p><p> But, at the end, we have a system, that we have made to work, for us, we have a very low mortality rate, and our calves are sort after, either privately, or through the ring, which they wouldn't be, unless they were 'good'.</p><p>But like many things, you only get out, what you are prepared to put in, and l think time, is the curse of calf rearing, exactly why we employ someone to 'do' them. Instead of finding faults, perhaps you should look for the positives in other farmers systems, just like our non-usual grazing system, it works, for us. At the end, its the bottom line, on the accounts, that tell the truth, ours is ok.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="som farmer, post: 8222668, member: 86168"] with 6 monthly TB testing, its easier to test whole herd x2, NMR won't test within so many day's of a test, we record every 2 months, so its easier to test whole lot. have always said acidifying, is meant to kill johnes, and info out there will differ, some say it does, others say it doesn't. For anyone buying in cows, johnes is a risk, and surprises us, that our tests come back with low incidence, but one cannot argue with results. Back in the late 60's, early 70's, johnes was quite common, usually in channel island herds, as cows changed over to hols, numbers dropped, and through the late 70's through to the 90's, we just didn't see cases. BSE brought it back into focus, again, l think the channel island herds are a problem still. But its a risk you have to monitor, and accept the risk. I think johnes is more prevalent in older cows, and, again i suspect many cattle have been through the system, before it would show up. But, at the end, we have a system, that we have made to work, for us, we have a very low mortality rate, and our calves are sort after, either privately, or through the ring, which they wouldn't be, unless they were 'good'. But like many things, you only get out, what you are prepared to put in, and l think time, is the curse of calf rearing, exactly why we employ someone to 'do' them. Instead of finding faults, perhaps you should look for the positives in other farmers systems, just like our non-usual grazing system, it works, for us. At the end, its the bottom line, on the accounts, that tell the truth, ours is ok. [/QUOTE]
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