Monbiot on Farming Forum

[grumpy]

1.5l/ha does feck all in the spring.

aye unless you have a plough,

 

[John 1594]

maybe,

but using lots of low doses of roundup is fashionable nowdays is it not

heck, ive even built myself a min till cultivator, you might convert me yet

although, the cultivator does better job when its dropped it to 9" deep, at that depth its no quicker than a plough, so im kidding myself really aint i

bit like most fanatic no tillers then?

 

[Badshot]

aye unless you have a plough,

Even after ploughing ( which believe it or not I used to do, still got it in the shed) 1.5l isn't enough to reliably take out volunteers, and certainly not enough for charlock etc. Blackgrass which germinates in the autumn will probably survive it too, maybe we are looking at the farm that will breed the first roundup ready blackgrass

Oh and I'd have ploughed it first time anyway, clean start and all that, but I'd leave the rubbish under for more than a year.

 

[Hilly]

Don't weed seeds last for nearly ever under the soil ?

 

[Badshot]

Don't weed seeds last for nearly ever under the soil ?

Some do, poppies are one that last 50 years plus, grass weeds not so long.

 

[John 1594]

Some do, poppies are one that last 50 years plus, grass weeds not so long.

wouldnt suprise me with poppies, im 28, and next door has had them as long as i can remember!!

 

[grumpy]

Even after ploughing ( which believe it or not I used to do, still got it in the shed) 1.5l isn't enough to reliably take out volunteers, and certainly not enough for charlock etc. Blackgrass which germinates in the autumn will probably survive it too, maybe we are looking at the farm that will breed the first roundup ready blackgrass

Oh and I'd have ploughed it first time anyway, clean start and all that, but I'd leave the rubbish under for more than a year.

wise man,only a fool says never.always best to hedge your bets.

 

[grumpy]

Don't weed seeds last for nearly ever under the soil ?

the best weed control was stubble burning,

 

[SilliamWhale]

maybe,

but using lots of low doses of roundup is fashionable nowdays is it not

heck, ive even built myself a min till cultivator, you might convert me yet

although, the cultivator does better job when its dropped it to 9" deep, at that depth its no quicker than a plough, so im kidding myself really aint i

bit like most fanatic no tillers then?

What are fanatic no tillers kidding ourselves about?

 

[Big Al]

TFF News note.

I have had a reply to my email to George Monbiot.

George has several commitments in the very near future but has volunteered to contribute to healthy debate on TFF

A timetabled discussion thread with George Monbiot live has been suggested

I will try to ensure the OP and others have sufficient notice to be able to join

Regards


Jeremy @JP1

Has this been forgotten about or did George bottle it?

 

[JP1]

Has this been forgotten about or did George bottle it?

Maybe bottled it or perhaps chose a bigger bear to bait?

 

[Big Al]

Maybe bottled it or perhaps chose a bigger bear to bait?

Hmm maybe, I have just flitted through a couple of his more recent articles on the Guardian website and he seems to forgotten about the wretched farmers and is now concentrating his scorn on evil corporations.

 

[RobFZS]

he'l reignite the flame when he comes out with his next outrageous claims

 

[grumpy]

he'l reignite the flame when he comes out with his next outrageous claims

some one will do a George Galloway on him he keeps inciting hatred of the farming fraternity

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28992601

 

[RobFZS]

if he's going after big business, then maybe its clocked to him that family small farms are the lesser of 2 evils, but we'll see, i don't think that would make him anymore though.

 

[pellow]

Don't know if this is a repost but Monbiot on how wolves change eco systems

 

[grumpy]

wolves eat folks enough said,there is a good reason there is non in this country now,our ancestors hunted every one down and killed them so as their stock and children weren't dinner.we ran into a wolf pack crossing the road in canada and killed a couple,i told me cousin to stop as im going to skin one went to open the door and heard snarling in the bushed and thought feck that