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<blockquote data-quote="som farmer" data-source="post: 7011046" data-attributes="member: 86168"><p>never worked/understood why civil law, can override 'normal' law, but in many cases, where police refuse to act, you can, under 'civil' law. Understand some bigger shop chains, are using civil law, to take shoplifters etc to court, whereas the police will only caution. For, harassment issues, or deliberate vandalism, you have far greater redress, under civil law, than normal law, also no CPS to kick it out. A lot of it can really help farmers, and I am surprised the NFU don't promote it more. An example, farmer had a load of pikeys turn up, and set up camp, 20/30 vehicles, police said they would act, but on hearing nothing back, went to station, and asked, reply, oh, they said they would move on, in a day or two, no further action required ! He was told, by an elderly sergeant, he had the right, under civil law, to evict them, using all necessary means, if he acted within 48 hrs of arrival, and put a notice on each vehicle giving them 12 or 24 hours notice. Checked it out, correct, informed the police, who begged him not to, anyway, rang round for assistance, for the 'time', 40/50 of us, tractors diggers etc. Police seriously tried to change his mind, no, Police officer, walked into the field we were waiting in, saw the numbers, read us the riot act, pleaded with us not to, but on being pressed very hard, had to admit it was legal, and she could not stop us, but would arrest anybody that went on to the A road, pushing the vehicles out, told the c####s they could gather at the service station, just along the road, with no interference from police, and called the riot police out from Bristol, 20/30 police there, end result, out they went, gathered at service station, where the traffic cops tested every tank for red diesel, great and no trouble since!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="som farmer, post: 7011046, member: 86168"] never worked/understood why civil law, can override 'normal' law, but in many cases, where police refuse to act, you can, under 'civil' law. Understand some bigger shop chains, are using civil law, to take shoplifters etc to court, whereas the police will only caution. For, harassment issues, or deliberate vandalism, you have far greater redress, under civil law, than normal law, also no CPS to kick it out. A lot of it can really help farmers, and I am surprised the NFU don't promote it more. An example, farmer had a load of pikeys turn up, and set up camp, 20/30 vehicles, police said they would act, but on hearing nothing back, went to station, and asked, reply, oh, they said they would move on, in a day or two, no further action required ! He was told, by an elderly sergeant, he had the right, under civil law, to evict them, using all necessary means, if he acted within 48 hrs of arrival, and put a notice on each vehicle giving them 12 or 24 hours notice. Checked it out, correct, informed the police, who begged him not to, anyway, rang round for assistance, for the 'time', 40/50 of us, tractors diggers etc. Police seriously tried to change his mind, no, Police officer, walked into the field we were waiting in, saw the numbers, read us the riot act, pleaded with us not to, but on being pressed very hard, had to admit it was legal, and she could not stop us, but would arrest anybody that went on to the A road, pushing the vehicles out, told the c####s they could gather at the service station, just along the road, with no interference from police, and called the riot police out from Bristol, 20/30 police there, end result, out they went, gathered at service station, where the traffic cops tested every tank for red diesel, great and no trouble since! [/QUOTE]
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