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<blockquote data-quote="Scribus" data-source="post: 6079112" data-attributes="member: 117192"><p>OK, lets have a look at those three bodies you mention.</p><p><u></u></p><p><u>HM Government</u>. What's in it for them? First up is that EV's will usher in road pricing, vehicle tracking in other words, another brick in the wall of total surveillance, and, what's more, control. When an EV is connected to the grid it won't be just topping up with energy, the Chinese (who else) have already cottoned on to the potential.</p><p></p><p><em>Local laws in China require more than 200 electric-car manufacturers—but not the makers of internal combustion cars—to transmit 61 data points, including global positioning location as well as state of charge, the most recent charge, the make, model, color, and total odometer mileage of each vehicle in real time to dozens of government-backed monitoring centers—not unlike traffic centers in the U.S.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>No doubt its a two way exchange and governments will, sooner or later, start geofencing cars and their occupants. Going to a protest meeting of some sort, or are in a dispute with the government? They'll have a switch on your car to turn it off.</p><p></p><p><u>The Green Lobby. </u>They are completely naive and clueless and are being rogered raw over EV's. EV's are not green, the batteries ensure they have a far larger manufacturing carbon footprint than engine powered cars, and then there is the problem of battery disposal and/or recycling. As already mentioed the terrestial cobalt supply is very finite indeed, so the plan is to suck it up off the sea floor, destroying a mainly pristine and unexplored environment. Just how environmentally friendly is that? Cars will also become disposable items, lasting the life of the battery, currently estimated at between 8 - 10 years. Basically the green cause has been hijacked by big money, which doesn't give a toss about saving the planet.</p><p></p><p><u>Scientists.</u> Which scientists do you have in mind? It might be noted that scientists have also come up with a way of making diesels ultra clean and extracting carbon from the atmosphere and recycling it as fuel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scribus, post: 6079112, member: 117192"] OK, lets have a look at those three bodies you mention. [U] HM Government[/U]. What's in it for them? First up is that EV's will usher in road pricing, vehicle tracking in other words, another brick in the wall of total surveillance, and, what's more, control. When an EV is connected to the grid it won't be just topping up with energy, the Chinese (who else) have already cottoned on to the potential. [I]Local laws in China require more than 200 electric-car manufacturers—but not the makers of internal combustion cars—to transmit 61 data points, including global positioning location as well as state of charge, the most recent charge, the make, model, color, and total odometer mileage of each vehicle in real time to dozens of government-backed monitoring centers—not unlike traffic centers in the U.S. [/I] No doubt its a two way exchange and governments will, sooner or later, start geofencing cars and their occupants. Going to a protest meeting of some sort, or are in a dispute with the government? They'll have a switch on your car to turn it off. [U]The Green Lobby. [/U]They are completely naive and clueless and are being rogered raw over EV's. EV's are not green, the batteries ensure they have a far larger manufacturing carbon footprint than engine powered cars, and then there is the problem of battery disposal and/or recycling. As already mentioed the terrestial cobalt supply is very finite indeed, so the plan is to suck it up off the sea floor, destroying a mainly pristine and unexplored environment. Just how environmentally friendly is that? Cars will also become disposable items, lasting the life of the battery, currently estimated at between 8 - 10 years. Basically the green cause has been hijacked by big money, which doesn't give a toss about saving the planet. [U]Scientists.[/U] Which scientists do you have in mind? It might be noted that scientists have also come up with a way of making diesels ultra clean and extracting carbon from the atmosphere and recycling it as fuel. [/QUOTE]
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