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<blockquote data-quote="flyonthewall" data-source="post: 6081940" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>All manufacturers are cheating with emissions and mpg data to a larger and larger degree just to sell cars, there are very few that genuinely achieve the mpg quoted: our old tdi 1998 Passat could genuinely achieve 65 mpg on a run up to Norfolk sat at 68mph on the cruise, yet a modern 2010 small Golf cr diesel is around 60 mpg, yet claims over 70 mpg. I agree VW are pushing their luck with emissions, but for the purpose of the test it passed. No different from sitting an exam yourself, passing and then forgetting it all. Mountain out of mole hill to my mind and the legislature/Judiciary are just enshrining your own culture. Were the bonds referred to issued in Germany or the USA?</p><p></p><p>Although I’m an admirer of American Engineering and own a Mercury outboard and have JDs on farm, culturaly diesels have never been popular in the states. The first V8 diesel GM made in the 80s was a disaster and JDs struggle for fuel efficiency. It’s a fact that excess petrol refined in Europe is shipped to the states. Do GM or Ford make a small 4 cylinder diesel in the states?</p><p></p><p>On the same note of colussion/ protectionist mentality most of the big American tech companies are in China eg Apple and Microsoft too, unfortunately I’m not party to the relationship VW and China have. But agree that lithium is a rare element and it wouldn’t surprise me that VW were following the money!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="flyonthewall, post: 6081940, member: 43436"] All manufacturers are cheating with emissions and mpg data to a larger and larger degree just to sell cars, there are very few that genuinely achieve the mpg quoted: our old tdi 1998 Passat could genuinely achieve 65 mpg on a run up to Norfolk sat at 68mph on the cruise, yet a modern 2010 small Golf cr diesel is around 60 mpg, yet claims over 70 mpg. I agree VW are pushing their luck with emissions, but for the purpose of the test it passed. No different from sitting an exam yourself, passing and then forgetting it all. Mountain out of mole hill to my mind and the legislature/Judiciary are just enshrining your own culture. Were the bonds referred to issued in Germany or the USA? Although I’m an admirer of American Engineering and own a Mercury outboard and have JDs on farm, culturaly diesels have never been popular in the states. The first V8 diesel GM made in the 80s was a disaster and JDs struggle for fuel efficiency. It’s a fact that excess petrol refined in Europe is shipped to the states. Do GM or Ford make a small 4 cylinder diesel in the states? On the same note of colussion/ protectionist mentality most of the big American tech companies are in China eg Apple and Microsoft too, unfortunately I’m not party to the relationship VW and China have. But agree that lithium is a rare element and it wouldn’t surprise me that VW were following the money! [/QUOTE]
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