Possible CCN 6-8week lamb?

[GreenerGrass]

Had the sheep housed for 5 and a half days around the snow on hay and nuts. They’ve been on nuts before. Lambed throughout January. Since I had them in I gave them their first heptavac p+ and then turned them out on Tuesday evening.

Wednesday morning found one lamb separated from the ewes and at a fence line put him back, but later that day figured he was blind. He had an apparent full tummy. Have him 2.5ml of combivit (8kg lamb) and this morning he was about the same so gave him another dose.

The combivit was breached a single time with clean needle in Oct. Could it no longer be effective (its discontinued so can’t get another bottle, use by is 2019), or is there another potential diagnosis. Lamb lies down now and does a bit of teeth grinding, does look similar to previous CCN I have had but that has always been older lambs, and they have always responded quickly to jab.

Might get b1 injection but it’s £50 from vets, and is a lot if it also has to be discarded after 28 days. Heptavac timing is likely just a coincidence isn’t it?

 

[glensman]

Had the sheep housed for 5 and a half days around the snow on hay and nuts. They’ve been on nuts before. Lambed throughout January. Since I had them in I gave them their first heptavac p+ and then turned them out on Tuesday evening.

Wednesday morning found one lamb separated from the ewes and at a fence line put him back, but later that day figured he was blind. He had an apparent full tummy. Have him 2.5ml of combivit (8kg lamb) and this morning he was about the same so gave him another dose.

The combivit was breached a single time with clean needle in Oct. Could it no longer be effective (its discontinued so can’t get another bottle, use by is 2019), or is there another potential diagnosis. Lamb lies down now and does a bit of teeth grinding, does look similar to previous CCN I have had but that has always been older lambs, and they have always responded quickly to jab.

Might get b1 injection but it’s £50 from vets, and is a lot if it also has to be discarded after 28 days. Heptavac timing is likely just a coincidence isn’t it?

Is it stretching it's neck back and looking upwards regularly?

 

[GreenerGrass]

No it’s not doing that. Salivating now, well just drops of water dripping from mouth. Temp 37.3.

Also appearing bloated i have called the vet and will take it in but they are all on other calls atm.

 

[John100]

Polio

 

[glensman]

No it’s not doing that. Salivating now, well just drops of water dripping from mouth. Temp 37.3.

Also appearing bloated i have called the vet and will take it in but they are all on other calls atm.

It's probably not CCN then. See what the vets say.

 

[Pistonbroke]

Listeria?

 

[neilo]

CCN needs a big dose of Vit B1 quickly, and often several follow up doses every 3 hours or so. A shot of Rapidexin (steroid) at the time of the first jab helps to take the swelling down over the brain, which is what causes the lasting damage IIRC. I've never had much luck using Combivit instead, but find big doses of B1 effective if caught early enough.

I'd be inclined to cover with ab's as well, in case it is listeria.

As to the Heptavac timing, CCN is normally triggered by stress of a change in nutrition, etc, so having in to avoid snow, and jabbing as well, could have been a trigger.

 

[GreenerGrass]

Unfortunately the lamb died. I took it in for post mortem and it was acidosis. Must have gorged on more nuts than its peers. It also had 100epg nematodirus and so although not scouring the vet recommended going through lambs with a white drench now and the following up in 3 weeks or so. I try and follow SCOPS and it seems so early (both lamb age and time of year/temps), but it is what it is (a right kick in the rubbish).