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<blockquote data-quote="soapsud" data-source="post: 9111452" data-attributes="member: 174488"><p>Any 1500+ acre Estate can suck up GFC easily. e.g. Where we used to live, the local Manor had their land registered off-shored in trust so RT was chicken feed to them.</p><p></p><p>The NFU-RT argument goes a bit like this:</p><p>1. Farmers produce on land either owned (or just possessed if your the tenant) for which they are paid already.</p><p>2. The processors/supermarkets need carbon credits in return for buying farmer's produce.</p><p>3. If Farmers wont sign away their carbon credit then they may lose out to those who will.</p><p>4. Anyone who wont trade will have to go into 100% SFI and cease arable/livestock and just trade carbon credits.</p><p></p><p>Heads they win, Tails we lose (if we want to actively farm). Win-win for the green economy</p><p></p><p>So what can farmers say to counter this?</p><p></p><p>1. Farmers are paid too little already.</p><p>2. Giving away carbon credits in exchange for being able to do what we were already doing, does not make business sense.</p><p>3. Therefore can medium and small farms withhold these credits so the Retailers and Processors go without and can we farmers still trade?</p><p></p><p>Only if farmers are organised and hold their nerve. This comes mainly down to rights to property and Rule of Law. The question then is, come NetZero, what carbon taxes will these big corporates have to pay and how many small and medium farms and their accompanying carbon credits do they need to balance their books?</p><p></p><p>If the Big Corps are short of carbon credits then that means food price rises to cover it!</p><p>Little independents and direct sales will then see the beginning of an upturn!</p><p></p><p>Defra's Magic Maps and their SFI database will have these answers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soapsud, post: 9111452, member: 174488"] Any 1500+ acre Estate can suck up GFC easily. e.g. Where we used to live, the local Manor had their land registered off-shored in trust so RT was chicken feed to them. The NFU-RT argument goes a bit like this: 1. Farmers produce on land either owned (or just possessed if your the tenant) for which they are paid already. 2. The processors/supermarkets need carbon credits in return for buying farmer's produce. 3. If Farmers wont sign away their carbon credit then they may lose out to those who will. 4. Anyone who wont trade will have to go into 100% SFI and cease arable/livestock and just trade carbon credits. Heads they win, Tails we lose (if we want to actively farm). Win-win for the green economy So what can farmers say to counter this? 1. Farmers are paid too little already. 2. Giving away carbon credits in exchange for being able to do what we were already doing, does not make business sense. 3. Therefore can medium and small farms withhold these credits so the Retailers and Processors go without and can we farmers still trade? Only if farmers are organised and hold their nerve. This comes mainly down to rights to property and Rule of Law. The question then is, come NetZero, what carbon taxes will these big corporates have to pay and how many small and medium farms and their accompanying carbon credits do they need to balance their books? If the Big Corps are short of carbon credits then that means food price rises to cover it! Little independents and direct sales will then see the beginning of an upturn! Defra's Magic Maps and their SFI database will have these answers. [/QUOTE]
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