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<blockquote data-quote="livestock 1" data-source="post: 6790856" data-attributes="member: 106502"><p>You are correct no one is forced.</p><p>There are exceptions though. I was told many times that one of the reasons for the continuation of sub was the cost of policing farmers. To control as many farmers as the current subsidy system does would cost as much as the subsidy itself. It’s worth remembering that anyone who claims subsidy is guilty as charged. Most people who don’t claim sub are innocent until proven guilty. Can you imagine the difference in legal costs? </p><p>I myself have had three sssi’s imposed on my land. No choice in this and subsequent stocking rates or total de stocking of these areasone case forced upon myself by law. So in other words take a fine or jail or take a hit on the farming value of these areas and some money. No brainer.</p><p>It’s ok to say you don’t have to claim bps and farm as you wish but in reality you would stick out like a sore thumb alongside the rest of people who do. It’s happened to me when a moor we graze was put into a scheme on one side of the dividing fence. My part soon came under scrutiny by the overgrazing brigade, although stocking rates hadn’t changed through many generations (on my side)</p><p>Same as when I go to the auctions to by breeding cattle or sheep. Should I not claim bps but have to bid against people who do? Should I sell lambs and cattle into a market priced with bps incorporated but not claim it myself? </p><p>What would my accountant, bank manager and land agents say to me if I didn’t claim bps? </p><p>Would their rates be as much in a non bps world? Would I then be paying the bps incorporated rates but not getting it myself? Same with vet fees, machinery animal meds rents .........</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="livestock 1, post: 6790856, member: 106502"] You are correct no one is forced. There are exceptions though. I was told many times that one of the reasons for the continuation of sub was the cost of policing farmers. To control as many farmers as the current subsidy system does would cost as much as the subsidy itself. It’s worth remembering that anyone who claims subsidy is guilty as charged. Most people who don’t claim sub are innocent until proven guilty. Can you imagine the difference in legal costs? I myself have had three sssi’s imposed on my land. No choice in this and subsequent stocking rates or total de stocking of these areasone case forced upon myself by law. So in other words take a fine or jail or take a hit on the farming value of these areas and some money. No brainer. It’s ok to say you don’t have to claim bps and farm as you wish but in reality you would stick out like a sore thumb alongside the rest of people who do. It’s happened to me when a moor we graze was put into a scheme on one side of the dividing fence. My part soon came under scrutiny by the overgrazing brigade, although stocking rates hadn’t changed through many generations (on my side) Same as when I go to the auctions to by breeding cattle or sheep. Should I not claim bps but have to bid against people who do? Should I sell lambs and cattle into a market priced with bps incorporated but not claim it myself? What would my accountant, bank manager and land agents say to me if I didn’t claim bps? Would their rates be as much in a non bps world? Would I then be paying the bps incorporated rates but not getting it myself? Same with vet fees, machinery animal meds rents ......... [/QUOTE]
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