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So why are so many vaccinated people getting Covid?
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<blockquote data-quote="Goweresque" data-source="post: 7804786" data-attributes="member: 818"><p>It seems like a lot of people, because the world has a lot more people than it used to have, and a lot more old people as well. When the Hong Kong Flu hit in 1968/69 the population of the world was 3.6 billion and it killed between 1 and 4 million people globally (estimated). The population of the world is now 7.7bn, so more than double, and the average age of those people, especially in Western countries is far older, so there are far more people potentially at risk, as covid is a killer of old age, like the flu. Covid has currently killed about 5m globally (if you take the official stats as gospel) so adjusted for population alone then its slap bang in the same ball park as Hong Kong flu for mortality. Take into account the ageing global population and mortality might actually be lower than the Hong Kong flu. </p><p></p><p>The truth is, for all the fear propaganda we have been hosed with, covid is not that dangerous a disease, compared to other viral epidemics. Its nasty for sure, but not 'Oh my god we must move heaven and earth to stop it' nasty. We need a sense of perspective here. If we behave like this for a disease that objectively is not that bad, how are we ever going to cope when (and it will be when, not if) a disease with a REALLY bad mortality rate turns up? The CFR for SARS was c.15%, ie 5 times the current CFR for Covid. Not only that its CFR for the over 60s was 50%! Imagine that on a global scale ripping through elderly Western nations. Now that would be a reason to take extreme measures. But a nasty flu epidemic? Just forget about it and get on with life, we all have to die eventually, and no amount of vaccines are going to prevent our eventual demise.</p><p></p><p>I have theory that the extreme panic that covid has engendered (in Western populations at least ) is down to the fact that we no longer have a true sense of death. Death is hidden away from us for most of our lives, we don't have to face it until it becomes a very personal issue, in the broader public sphere death is not really ever discussed or considered. People just assume that they will live well into their 80s and thus anyone under the age of 60 won't really have contemplated their own mortality much, or come to terms with it psychologically. Covid has forced everyone to do that in a very short space of time - suddenly people who imagined they had decades of life left had to consider the possibility they could die next week. Thats a very heavy psychological blow to cope with, and I think this is the source of the panic. 50 years ago when Hong Kong flu hit people a) died younger anyway so death was an issue at far younger ages than today and b) they had just come through a World War that had killed tens of millions, so a few deaths from the flu wasn't going to faze them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goweresque, post: 7804786, member: 818"] It seems like a lot of people, because the world has a lot more people than it used to have, and a lot more old people as well. When the Hong Kong Flu hit in 1968/69 the population of the world was 3.6 billion and it killed between 1 and 4 million people globally (estimated). The population of the world is now 7.7bn, so more than double, and the average age of those people, especially in Western countries is far older, so there are far more people potentially at risk, as covid is a killer of old age, like the flu. Covid has currently killed about 5m globally (if you take the official stats as gospel) so adjusted for population alone then its slap bang in the same ball park as Hong Kong flu for mortality. Take into account the ageing global population and mortality might actually be lower than the Hong Kong flu. The truth is, for all the fear propaganda we have been hosed with, covid is not that dangerous a disease, compared to other viral epidemics. Its nasty for sure, but not 'Oh my god we must move heaven and earth to stop it' nasty. We need a sense of perspective here. If we behave like this for a disease that objectively is not that bad, how are we ever going to cope when (and it will be when, not if) a disease with a REALLY bad mortality rate turns up? The CFR for SARS was c.15%, ie 5 times the current CFR for Covid. Not only that its CFR for the over 60s was 50%! Imagine that on a global scale ripping through elderly Western nations. Now that would be a reason to take extreme measures. But a nasty flu epidemic? Just forget about it and get on with life, we all have to die eventually, and no amount of vaccines are going to prevent our eventual demise. I have theory that the extreme panic that covid has engendered (in Western populations at least ) is down to the fact that we no longer have a true sense of death. Death is hidden away from us for most of our lives, we don't have to face it until it becomes a very personal issue, in the broader public sphere death is not really ever discussed or considered. People just assume that they will live well into their 80s and thus anyone under the age of 60 won't really have contemplated their own mortality much, or come to terms with it psychologically. Covid has forced everyone to do that in a very short space of time - suddenly people who imagined they had decades of life left had to consider the possibility they could die next week. Thats a very heavy psychological blow to cope with, and I think this is the source of the panic. 50 years ago when Hong Kong flu hit people a) died younger anyway so death was an issue at far younger ages than today and b) they had just come through a World War that had killed tens of millions, so a few deaths from the flu wasn't going to faze them. [/QUOTE]
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