Scholsey
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hreatens-land-grab-against-white-farmers.html
oh dear, not this again!
oh dear, not this again!
South African government taking farms back
- Thread starter Scholsey
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It's shocking, it amounts to ethnic cleansing of whites by blacks
Why isn't it headline news ?
Zimbabwe all over again, just wait & see
Why isn't it headline news ?
Zimbabwe all over again, just wait & see
Dead Rabbits
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It’s not in the headlines because it doesn’t fit the left leaning media’s narrative. The farmers will never be seen as victims of a corrupt, racist government led by incompetent fools. They will instead be portrayed as the oppressors getting what they deserve by the formerly oppressed. But not due to racism, cause only whites can be racist.
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Very long clip, but skip to most speakers and the message is the same
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texas pete
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Scholsey
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"left leaning media" you've obviously never read the Daily Mail.
To be fair it’s the only uk newspaper I could find the article on I try and not use the daily mail as a reputable source so i think he is right!
capfits
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It could be readily be argued that what goes around comes around.
That is not to say I condone any violence in any circumstances but this in essence is not different to what the white farmers colonial predecessors were doing at some point in the past. Bet you that was not reported in the right wing or left wing press for that fact.
The difference now being that "a man is a man for a that" in terms of the electorate and that rights that were denied to the majority coloured population for so long are now been being taken up in a more vigorous manner.
There is no doubt that the majority electorate are getting somewhat frustrated by the slow progress of an equalising of their life outcomes particularly in view of the corrupte governing party and politicians.
That is not to say I condone any violence in any circumstances but this in essence is not different to what the white farmers colonial predecessors were doing at some point in the past. Bet you that was not reported in the right wing or left wing press for that fact.
The difference now being that "a man is a man for a that" in terms of the electorate and that rights that were denied to the majority coloured population for so long are now been being taken up in a more vigorous manner.
There is no doubt that the majority electorate are getting somewhat frustrated by the slow progress of an equalising of their life outcomes particularly in view of the corrupte governing party and politicians.
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There's a conversation fairly early on in the film Crocodile Dundee which is very apt. Mick is asked what he thinks of Aboriginal rights to land and colonials taking it from them, and he points out that the natives didn't regard the land as owned, it was just there, and they were a part of it.
From a European point of view this must have seemed odd, and they weren't snatching it away, they were claiming land that belonged to no-one, it just had uncivilised people living there. We can apply our modern sensibilities to that, and some are horrified by those actions, but it's all water under the bridge now, we can't go back and change it. And as much as colonialism is demonised in recent times, I'm sure those countries would not wish to return to the extremely hard life that existed before for them. It's something that an outsider may wish to see, but it's not something many individuals would want to endure.
From a European point of view this must have seemed odd, and they weren't snatching it away, they were claiming land that belonged to no-one, it just had uncivilised people living there. We can apply our modern sensibilities to that, and some are horrified by those actions, but it's all water under the bridge now, we can't go back and change it. And as much as colonialism is demonised in recent times, I'm sure those countries would not wish to return to the extremely hard life that existed before for them. It's something that an outsider may wish to see, but it's not something many individuals would want to endure.
Tarw Coch
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A bit like squatters rights, don’t know if they still apply but certainly within my lifetime if you could prove unchallenged possesson over a number of years you could claim ownership.
I think that squatting is now a criminal rather that civil offence in UK
Tarw Coch
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I’m certainly not convinced squatters rights still exist, or how they ever fitted in with the law.
Bootneck
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The Boers arrived in SA in around 1650. The Zulus and allied groups pushed south from what is now Zimbabwe in around 1670. The original inhabitants of SA are the San bushmen, but you can be sure they won't be getting any land
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Native Americans had the same attitude when the white men tried to buy land off them (for $100-200 per prairie or valley) - how can you own land?
Tarw Coch
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I suppose population density was so low there was more than enough to go around, there was no need to own it, there was no competition for it.