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<blockquote data-quote="Danllan" data-source="post: 9202862" data-attributes="member: 8735"><p>No, it isn't. It would be to blame mass immigration for <u>all</u> woes, and I didn't, but it certainly is directly responsible for many. Care to offer figures of what it costs the UK, or maybe you'd like to write of the massively disproportionate amount of crime - particularly violent crime - that immigrants commit. Or perhaps you won't address that, because you can't and stay fashionable.</p><p></p><p>But no! Let's ignore the inconvenient facts of the matter and, instead, go to The Refugee Council for some convenient ones, e.g. this bunch of arseheads tell us that '<em>Refugees make a huge contribution to the UK</em>', and go on to tell us:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>About 1,200 medically qualified refugees are recorded on the British Medical Association’s database. It is estimated that it costs around £25,000 to support a refugee doctor to practise in the UK. Training a new doctor is estimated to cost between £200,000 and £250,000</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Children in the UK asylum system contribute very positively to schools across the country. This in turn enables more successful integration of families into local communities</em></li> </ul><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/the-truth-about-asylum/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Let's look at these these claims. Firstly, they choose doctors as a point in case, ignoring all other refugees, you know, the scroungers, labourers, rapists etc.. But what proportion of refugees are doctors? That figure they give is the TOTAL number, not the number for January this year or for 2023, but so far in total. In 2019 the UK got 133k refugees, 2020 132k, 2021 137k, 2022 328k.* That's well over 700k for those four years alone, and means the doctors (who came over a much longer period) would make up less than one sixth of one percent of refugees in the UK, and these are MDs on the BMA database, not necessarily working in the NHS.</p><p></p><p>Is anyone going to suggest each one of these Docs is going to do enough and contribute enough to make up for even a tenth of the >600 other refugees for every one of them?</p><p></p><p>Now, just read that second claim... it just says that '<em>children in the UK asylum system contribute very positively to schools across the country</em>' and offers nothing to prove this, not a word, number or even a one-off anecdote. They've written it, so we just have to accept it... f*ck off! What do they contribute, just by being there?</p><p></p><p>And the second part of that is drivel too, of course e.g. Afghans integrate successfully into Afghan <em>communities</em>, and Syrians into Syrian <em>communities</em> etc. etc. of course they bloody do - but how well do they integrate into the UK's society as whole? We all know what the answer is in the vast majority of cases.</p><p></p><p>And that's just '<em>refugees</em>', we have hundreds of thousands of people who have come over from e.g. Pakistan, India, Nigeria etc. not via the asylum scam, but who also fail to integrate into the UK, but fit in perfectly in their <u>own</u> <em>communities</em>.</p><p></p><p>*<a href="https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/refugee-statistics" target="_blank">https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/refugee-statistics</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Danllan, post: 9202862, member: 8735"] No, it isn't. It would be to blame mass immigration for [U]all[/U] woes, and I didn't, but it certainly is directly responsible for many. Care to offer figures of what it costs the UK, or maybe you'd like to write of the massively disproportionate amount of crime - particularly violent crime - that immigrants commit. Or perhaps you won't address that, because you can't and stay fashionable. But no! Let's ignore the inconvenient facts of the matter and, instead, go to The Refugee Council for some convenient ones, e.g. this bunch of arseheads tell us that '[I]Refugees make a huge contribution to the UK[/I]', and go on to tell us: [LIST] [*][I]About 1,200 medically qualified refugees are recorded on the British Medical Association’s database. It is estimated that it costs around £25,000 to support a refugee doctor to practise in the UK. Training a new doctor is estimated to cost between £200,000 and £250,000[/I] [*][I]Children in the UK asylum system contribute very positively to schools across the country. This in turn enables more successful integration of families into local communities[/I] [/LIST] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/the-truth-about-asylum/[/URL] Let's look at these these claims. Firstly, they choose doctors as a point in case, ignoring all other refugees, you know, the scroungers, labourers, rapists etc.. But what proportion of refugees are doctors? That figure they give is the TOTAL number, not the number for January this year or for 2023, but so far in total. In 2019 the UK got 133k refugees, 2020 132k, 2021 137k, 2022 328k.* That's well over 700k for those four years alone, and means the doctors (who came over a much longer period) would make up less than one sixth of one percent of refugees in the UK, and these are MDs on the BMA database, not necessarily working in the NHS. Is anyone going to suggest each one of these Docs is going to do enough and contribute enough to make up for even a tenth of the >600 other refugees for every one of them? Now, just read that second claim... it just says that '[I]children in the UK asylum system contribute very positively to schools across the country[/I]' and offers nothing to prove this, not a word, number or even a one-off anecdote. They've written it, so we just have to accept it... f*ck off! What do they contribute, just by being there? And the second part of that is drivel too, of course e.g. Afghans integrate successfully into Afghan [I]communities[/I], and Syrians into Syrian [I]communities[/I] etc. etc. of course they bloody do - but how well do they integrate into the UK's society as whole? We all know what the answer is in the vast majority of cases. And that's just '[I]refugees[/I]', we have hundreds of thousands of people who have come over from e.g. Pakistan, India, Nigeria etc. not via the asylum scam, but who also fail to integrate into the UK, but fit in perfectly in their [U]own[/U] [I]communities[/I]. *[URL]https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/refugee-statistics[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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