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The great global warming scam, worth a listen I think.
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<blockquote data-quote="Dave645" data-source="post: 3332396" data-attributes="member: 55822"><p>The truth about the subject is not available, but the changes that are happening are fact. The how and why are nearly irrelevant. We have to get past that, playing the blame games is so pointless.</p><p>Facts are still facts the world is warming, if it continues it will result in greater difficulties for our children.</p><p></p><p>The inequities in energy use around the world as you say are very unfair that doubles the reasons that those who can afford to pay more do so, undeveloped counties can then can do it the cheap way we did, If needed. We should be doubling down and paying the bulk of the money to search for new tech, if we want to let, the likes of India developed as we did.</p><p>So complaining about energy cost is like saying to India we don't care about effects of the world warming, we are not going to do our part. We want you to do it the expensive way so we can still have cheap energy.</p><p></p><p>I understand that you believe that we as humans aren't increasing global temperatures. But how can we not be......</p><p>I see it on my weather forcasts on the BBC when they say and temperatures in city areas will be a few degrees higher than in rural areas.</p><p>and we know as a fact that burning oil and coal releases heat and creates CO2.</p><p>Not I am not going to gamble that this is having zero effect on global temps, that natural effects are the only things at play, and again even if they were, it's still damaging to let global temp rise if we can do something to slow it, we should if that means business and people have to pay more for their energy use so be it.</p><p>Arguing about the causes is a smoke screen, which hides the true problems that temperatures are rising regardless of how.</p><p></p><p>Let's say it is natural and scientist think that by reducing our CO2 and our emitted greenhouse gasses we can slow or stop it. Are you saying we should not because it's natural? Because that's the position you seem to be arguing that taxing and increasing energy cost, so we do reduce our use is wrong.</p><p> Like I said their are billions of people's lives, and a lot of the worlds wildlife on this choice. If your wrong it's disaster, if I am wrong we get a cleaner world for our children to live in.</p><p> This is why arguing it's not our fault is pointless, as is complaining we are paying more for energy. Their is no real option until it's proven to be fully natural, and nothing we can do can effect it even if we try.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dave645, post: 3332396, member: 55822"] The truth about the subject is not available, but the changes that are happening are fact. The how and why are nearly irrelevant. We have to get past that, playing the blame games is so pointless. Facts are still facts the world is warming, if it continues it will result in greater difficulties for our children. The inequities in energy use around the world as you say are very unfair that doubles the reasons that those who can afford to pay more do so, undeveloped counties can then can do it the cheap way we did, If needed. We should be doubling down and paying the bulk of the money to search for new tech, if we want to let, the likes of India developed as we did. So complaining about energy cost is like saying to India we don't care about effects of the world warming, we are not going to do our part. We want you to do it the expensive way so we can still have cheap energy. I understand that you believe that we as humans aren't increasing global temperatures. But how can we not be...... I see it on my weather forcasts on the BBC when they say and temperatures in city areas will be a few degrees higher than in rural areas. and we know as a fact that burning oil and coal releases heat and creates CO2. Not I am not going to gamble that this is having zero effect on global temps, that natural effects are the only things at play, and again even if they were, it's still damaging to let global temp rise if we can do something to slow it, we should if that means business and people have to pay more for their energy use so be it. Arguing about the causes is a smoke screen, which hides the true problems that temperatures are rising regardless of how. Let's say it is natural and scientist think that by reducing our CO2 and our emitted greenhouse gasses we can slow or stop it. Are you saying we should not because it's natural? Because that's the position you seem to be arguing that taxing and increasing energy cost, so we do reduce our use is wrong. Like I said their are billions of people's lives, and a lot of the worlds wildlife on this choice. If your wrong it's disaster, if I am wrong we get a cleaner world for our children to live in. This is why arguing it's not our fault is pointless, as is complaining we are paying more for energy. Their is no real option until it's proven to be fully natural, and nothing we can do can effect it even if we try. [/QUOTE]
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