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UK Farm Support......THE POLL!!
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<blockquote data-quote="spin cycle" data-source="post: 5290956" data-attributes="member: 12281"><p>poll misses the point a bit IMO</p><p></p><p>the real issue is food security......in the coming weeks we might see shortages of lettuces,carrots and other veg because of the drought....now that doesn't really matter cos there's other stuff to eat</p><p></p><p>however imagine a scenario where low prices, no sub exist and planting/rearing are discontinued by many in a spring.....followed by a drought or other event and there's 50% less (for eg) wheat for bread... wheat for pork/chicken... malted barley.... beef or lamb.....milk ect and i'd suggest the country has a problem.....it's no good the govt going to farmers in july and asking for more food cos it'll take at least a yr if not longer in some cases</p><p></p><p>the mistake they make is that farmers will suddenly up their game become mega efficient and so productive that they'll make money even with cheap prices......yet i havn't seen any 'magic wand' to do this as yet<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/scratchhead.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":scratchhead:" title="Scratchead :scratchhead:" data-shortname=":scratchhead:" /></p><p></p><p>10 yrs ago i promised myself i'd quit farming when i was 55.....now that birthday is only a yr away....do i really quit<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/scratchhead.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":scratchhead:" title="Scratchead :scratchhead:" data-shortname=":scratchhead:" />....i could let my arable out and play with some sheep on the pp....get another bigger stewardship deal<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/scratchhead.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":scratchhead:" title="Scratchead :scratchhead:" data-shortname=":scratchhead:" />.....carry on as i am<img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/scratchhead.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":scratchhead:" title="Scratchead :scratchhead:" data-shortname=":scratchhead:" /></p><p>if i was to carry on (and subs dissapeared) i think i'd go 'dog and stick'....keeping relatively low sheep numbers building them up and selling virtually out if/when price was right then start again....there'd be no annual production cycle</p><p></p><p>so i would suggest many will extensify ......perhaps arable farmers only planting when favourable contracts exist ,beef producers emphasing storing animals outdoors on grass ect.....production will drop and food security compromised?</p><p></p><p> IMO what they out to do is pay £50/ac for land in food production.....the rest diverted into stewardship</p><p></p><p>sorry for long post...not normally my style<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spin cycle, post: 5290956, member: 12281"] poll misses the point a bit IMO the real issue is food security......in the coming weeks we might see shortages of lettuces,carrots and other veg because of the drought....now that doesn't really matter cos there's other stuff to eat however imagine a scenario where low prices, no sub exist and planting/rearing are discontinued by many in a spring.....followed by a drought or other event and there's 50% less (for eg) wheat for bread... wheat for pork/chicken... malted barley.... beef or lamb.....milk ect and i'd suggest the country has a problem.....it's no good the govt going to farmers in july and asking for more food cos it'll take at least a yr if not longer in some cases the mistake they make is that farmers will suddenly up their game become mega efficient and so productive that they'll make money even with cheap prices......yet i havn't seen any 'magic wand' to do this as yet:scratchhead: 10 yrs ago i promised myself i'd quit farming when i was 55.....now that birthday is only a yr away....do i really quit:scratchhead:....i could let my arable out and play with some sheep on the pp....get another bigger stewardship deal:scratchhead:.....carry on as i am:scratchhead: if i was to carry on (and subs dissapeared) i think i'd go 'dog and stick'....keeping relatively low sheep numbers building them up and selling virtually out if/when price was right then start again....there'd be no annual production cycle so i would suggest many will extensify ......perhaps arable farmers only planting when favourable contracts exist ,beef producers emphasing storing animals outdoors on grass ect.....production will drop and food security compromised? IMO what they out to do is pay £50/ac for land in food production.....the rest diverted into stewardship sorry for long post...not normally my style:) [/QUOTE]
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