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Water, water everywhere but seldom a drop to pump
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<blockquote data-quote="Guleesh" data-source="post: 7548773" data-attributes="member: 147187"><p>The only relevant factor in a sealed pipe is the difference in height between the inlet and the outlet, what happens in between is of little consequence.</p><p></p><p>Every 10m below the surface of water creates approximately 1 bar of pressure at that depth. so if the barrel was 10m higher than the outlet, 1 bar could be obtained only if surface water in the barrel was subjected to the same atmospheric pressure as the outlet. In this scenario that pressure at the outlet will be quickly lost due to the vacuum created at the highest point by the weight of water pulling down both the inlet and outlet, the vacuum chamber in the middle makes no difference really. The only way to obtain flow is to lower the outlet below the surface level of the inlet.</p><p></p><p>More pressure and flow is created here than a basic syphon because a man filled up the barrel with buckets, the only 'free energy' is the energy the man already spent lifting water, which then becomes potential energy. </p><p></p><p>Unless I'm missing something it is a syphon that allows extra water to be added using buckets and a barrel at height. Any perceived gain will be lost once the barrel has emptied, but then I suppose you could just keep filling up the barrel with buckets and call it free energy. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/scratchhead.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":scratchhead:" title="Scratchead :scratchhead:" data-shortname=":scratchhead:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guleesh, post: 7548773, member: 147187"] The only relevant factor in a sealed pipe is the difference in height between the inlet and the outlet, what happens in between is of little consequence. Every 10m below the surface of water creates approximately 1 bar of pressure at that depth. so if the barrel was 10m higher than the outlet, 1 bar could be obtained only if surface water in the barrel was subjected to the same atmospheric pressure as the outlet. In this scenario that pressure at the outlet will be quickly lost due to the vacuum created at the highest point by the weight of water pulling down both the inlet and outlet, the vacuum chamber in the middle makes no difference really. The only way to obtain flow is to lower the outlet below the surface level of the inlet. More pressure and flow is created here than a basic syphon because a man filled up the barrel with buckets, the only 'free energy' is the energy the man already spent lifting water, which then becomes potential energy. Unless I'm missing something it is a syphon that allows extra water to be added using buckets and a barrel at height. Any perceived gain will be lost once the barrel has emptied, but then I suppose you could just keep filling up the barrel with buckets and call it free energy. :scratchhead: [/QUOTE]
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