Better to find someone on some tough land and get both in the field after some chopped winter oat or barley straw. Like in boxing, talk is cheap. Get both in the ring and see. No messing then. Bit like Clive's DD comparison, but on some more challenging soils.
Mzuri Ziptil
- Thread starter B&B Pig Man
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Better to find someone on some tough land and get both in the field after some chopped winter oat or barley straw. Like in boxing, talk is cheap. Get both in the ring and see. No messing then. Bit like Clive's DD comparison, but on some more challenging soils.
- Location
- Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
I've got 30 acres of spring beans to put in.
Will probably on overwintered subsoiling - if i get it done.
Anybody fancy the challenge?
Martin Lole
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- Location
- Worcestershire
Fully agree, if a manufacturer claims ‘strip tillage drilling’ then as farmers what’s reasonable to expect?
Surely the very basics are to drill seed into a tilled strip of soil, directly into a field that is uncultivated and with the previous crop residue on the surface??
SilliamWhale
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Personally I think it would detract a little if manufacturers have to say why their own gear is the best on the forum. Its healthier for farmers to judge.
I'm not so sure - it's their job to convince potential customers why their machine is better and what the perceived shortcomings of their rivals are
Strip till market is very different to the zero till market, different type of customer all together IMO
- Location
- Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Yes - customers like me - the ones that just can't make their mind up about anything!
Just buy my Dale ! All strip tillers end up with proper no till drills in the end, save yourself the journey getting there
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
@B&B Pig Man Come and have a look at my Claydon, and the crops that I've drilled with it, (I'll even do you a good deal on it!)
All strip tillers end up with proper no till drills in the end
!!!
It's enevitable !
maybe we will maybe not, but on heavier ground there is a "journey" ( how I hate that expression) to obtain the improved soil structure to allow the natural drainage to occur. I am a big fan of minimal soil disturbance to reduce weed germination but in the early years a bit of tilth is IMO a good thing.Just buy my Dale ! All strip tillers end up with proper no till drills in the end, save yourself the journey getting there
And come on Martin how about you using your undoubted skills to make a no till drill to compliment the strip till ones, You know you want to
And come on Martin how about you using your undoubted skills to make a no till drill to compliment the strip till ones, You know you want to
Been telling him this for 2 years ! Bet he will do one of these days
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
- Location
- Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
Claydons always seem power hungry to me - according to literature anyway.
I could pull a 4m ziptil - but only a 3m (maybe a bit more) Claydon.
With my MF6490.
Not sure why they all seem so power hungry really.
All strip till needs power, little to choose IMO between Mzuri, Claydon or Sumo in that respect really
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Rubbish, i pull our Claydon with a MF 6470!
@Martin Lole, i would have a couple of issues in how you rate the Claydon, i would rate the trash flow as excellent, i have drilled into maize stubble with had laid plants in it and it drilled fine; the seed depth control is ok, i think the rating of poor is a bit extreme. Once the drill is set up, i'm convinced there is nothing better on the market, as i'm sure you'd agree yours is too.
After our first season using our Claydon, our next door neighbour was so impressed by our crops that he came to look at our drill twice, he eventually bought one of your Pro-til's (but i suspect that was because we had a Claydon and couldn't be seen to be copying!)
Having seen the Pro-til i would argue that the setup is very complicated and time consuming, am i correct in thinking you have to set each leg individually?
Also, one other thing i have noticed (and i stress this is just from looking over the hedge) is that he struggles to get going after a heavy dew, and can't go much longer after dark, whereas i can keep going.
- Location
- Gainsborough, Lincolnshire
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
it's a 3 metre SR
pull mine with t6070 romps along at 12k most of the time in reasonable clay, would go faster but thats the limit of "B" range without being on the rev limit
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
@B&B Pig Man your 6490 could handle a 4m or even a 4.8m