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Has anyone got reasonably accurate cost for an oil fired CF drier at current cost of kero? What do the co=ops charge members per tonne, I am assuming that they charge close to cost to their own members ?
In the past, when I have been thinking about central versus own storage costs, I've used this pdf which has some guide prices:
http://www.randbrothers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/RANDStore-information-V3.pdf
The drying charges are probably close to cost but the weight losses and screenings charges are often very much in the stores favour, not always but I have seen some shocking figures from some people.Has anyone got reasonably accurate cost for an oil fired CF drier at current cost of kero? What do the co=ops charge members per tonne, I am assuming that they charge close to cost to their own members ?
In the past, when I have been thinking about central versus own storage costs, I've used this pdf which has some guide prices:
http://www.randbrothers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/RANDStore-information-V3.pdf
Does that price of £9/t include haulage?
That looks to be storage on an annual basis rather than a shared facility owned by the members?
...the weight losses and screenings charges are often very much in the stores favour, not always but I have seen some shocking figures from some people.
A co-op is exactly that, shared risk & reward. The store's income is used in several ways; to run the store, to subsidise charges, to invest in infrastructure (which can then be shown as increased asset value in the farm accounts of each member) and finally to redistribute to the members.
For the 2015 harvest year, Woldgrain was able to reduce annual charges to members and redistribute over £120,000 to members.
Can't comment on your set up, but know another 'Co-op' took near 45mt of 'screenings' out of a lump of feed wheat delivered to them at harvest 2015 (we tested the same wheat at 78-80kghl and moved one lump of it to a premium home as had hagberg and protien), the farmer in question asked for the screenings to be delivered back to him for pheasant food or at least to be paid for it, they told him it was sold as distressed corn at circa £50/mt, he didn't get a premium on the now 'cleaned' feed wheat.A co-op is exactly that, shared risk & reward. The store's income is used in several ways; to run the store, to subsidise charges, to invest in infrastructure (which can then be shown as increased asset value in the farm accounts of each member) and finally to redistribute to the members.
For the 2015 harvest year, Woldgrain was able to reduce annual charges to members and redistribute over £120,000 to members.
Can't comment on your set up, but know another 'Co-op' took near 45mt of 'screenings' out of a lump of feed wheat delivered to them at harvest 2015 (we tested the same wheat at 78-80kghl and moved one lump of it to a premium home as had hagberg and protien), the farmer in question asked for the screenings to be delivered back to him for pheasant food or at least to be paid for it, they told him it was sold as distressed corn at circa £50/mt, he didn't get a premium on the now 'cleaned' feed wheat.
It is easy to tar everyone with the same brush, and appreciate not everyone does the above, but it does need to be considered as often when the drying/storage charges look cheap there may be a catch.
C B
Sorry 2015 harvest as in this last harvest, so although I completely agree it is shocking the premiums were circa £3-5.that's shocking ! truly shocking - 2015 the premium would have been £50 at time
if I could only grow low protein low bushel wheat then joining a co-op full of decent milling wheat growers might just make some sense !
Can't comment on your set up, but know another 'Co-op' took near 45mt of 'screenings' out of a lump of feed wheat
That is a poor business model that requires deductions on that scale. Woldgrain does not deduct screenings losses from Group 3 wheat, Group 4 wheat or Feed Barley.
seems fair !
so if I send you a load of 60kg crap you mix it with some better farms 80plus kg stuff ? - the 80kgs guys are subsidising the blending costs though within their storage fee I suppose though
what happened in 2014 when it was all 60kgs crap and even gp 3 and 4 was getting a kick in the nuts at mills ?
if I could only grow low protein low bushel wheat then joining a co-op full of decent milling wheat growers might just make some sense !
What do the co-ops charge members per tonne, I am assuming that they charge close to cost to their own members ?