machines that never caught on

Roy_H

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Taylor Shaver (Or was it Shava? ) Plough. It consisted of a horizontal blade that was supposed to skim across stubbles to sever weeds just below the roots. No chance !
I also recall a forage wagon that used two baler rams that pushed material against banks of stationary knives to chop the material, l can't remember who made it, it could have been Archie Kidd or Blench. Anyway it never caught on!
 

kmo

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Location
E. Wales
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JWL

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Location
Hereford
Seems to have been a lot of ideas when it comes to bale handling. I do remember a college study tour(pee up) round France in the early 1980's where we went to one farm up in the mountains that had a Sperry New Holland trailer pick up wagon all full of slats, chains and levels that would collect about 100 bales. It would pull up alongside the barn next to an elevator and feed bales out into the barn. Inside the barn conveyors were fed all over the place in the roof space and were set to drop the bales in the appropriate places. It was a complete one man band set up but the set up costs must have been collosall!
Back to the original topic, the McConnell Balepacker,
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a great machine when working properly, three of us used to cart in 50 to 60,000 small bales of straw and never handball any of them. You still can't beat little bales when it comes to individual sheep pens at lambing or calf pens and being able to grab 20 bales with the squeeze grab and put them handy was something else, part packs could be moved around without loose straw everywhere.
They did give the baler some stick especially on banks and I remember our balers had extra strengthening in order to not snap apart!
 

Roy_H

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Howard big baler
Self propelled balers
The Bigbaler (For a start anyway) was actually a best seller for Howards. They were like hen's teeth to get hold of, l know we had to wait about 9 months to get ours. One farmer near us actually walked up to a machine on Howard's stand at Smithfield Show ( Or The Royal Show l can't quite remember) and offered to buy it off them for twice the book price, but of course his kind offer was 'declined'. When his machine did arrive we went to watch it working but quite honestly the guy on the tractor seat hadn't a clue how to use it, so it was not a good demonstration. I asked the farmer if he liked the baler " l like it, it has saved me a lot of work!" he said proudly ( We found out later that he had only done about three acres with it apparently! ). When he sold up we went to the sale. I could tell that the baler had hardly been used and the only problem l could see was that it needed a lick of paint. When it came to be sold it only realised scrap price, much to the farmers annoyance! He told the auctioneer that he had been offered a much better price for it by someone some time before the sale to which the auctioneer replied "Well he's not here today is he!"
As for the baler itself. Well the advent of the round baler ( Although the first ones were pretty awful anyway) and The Hesston type high density big square balers , plus the fact The Howard was dogged with reliability problems finally killed it off
 
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Blue.

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Livestock Farmer
What happened to the Krone big baler that tied individual bales in one big one?

Always thought that was a good idea,must be 20years since we had small bales here.
 

chickens and wheat

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Mixed Farmer
We had several howard big balers, terrible knotters, frequent welding to the chassis tail gate packer etc, but we persevered due to the design of pig shed that we had at the time. I spent most of my teen summers picking the soft bales up with a sambron j24s. often picking them up again after they fell off the trailers.
one baler burnt because someone tried welding it up without emptying the half bale out.

Dutch barn had to have cable along the legs to hold the bales in.
 

Roy_H

Member
We had several howard big balers, terrible knotters, frequent welding to the chassis tail gate packer etc, but we persevered due to the design of pig shed that we had at the time. I spent most of my teen summers picking the soft bales up with a sambron j24s. often picking them up again after they fell off the trailers.
one baler burnt because someone tried welding it up without emptying the half bale out.

Dutch barn had to have cable along the legs to hold the bales in.
One of the first machines went to Nostell Priory near Wakefield and apparently theirs caught fire for the same reason. The guy that told me that also said that they pulled theirs with a Ford 4000 which was "Coughing it's guts out and shaking itself to pieces" trying to power the thing.
 

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