Staff shortage.

Banana Bar said:

You want a busy job on a Quadtrac for harvest?

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ARW said:

Any body else having trouble finding good staff?
Just had a lad leave us because he is sick of driving tractors apparently and needs to be at home on his 100 acre Farm and pet sheep. That won't pay the bills.
Had a young lad come before harvest on full time basis, didn't even start because he changed his tune an decided he would only work 40 hours a week and wanted weekends off (because he gets tired), fair enough but that's no good, baling isn't a 9-5 job yet he wants to do Farm work.
Had a lad on in spring, good hand, self employed, paid well. After a few months he is late everyday from 10 mins to over an hour. Bad job when you can't get up for £700 a week.
Shortage of men round here, seems they would rather do f all than earn a wage, we don't expect them to work as hard as us or work for nothing.
Is this common in other parts?

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Shaun619 said:

As a 23 year old guy I find people my age and older who just don't want to work. I grew up on a farm and learned what work was and although I am not on a farm at the moment as there was not a spot for me around where i grew up when the time came to make a steady income to pay my bills. (Currently a supervisor in a factory store) I constantly have people working for me who either do anything to avoid the graft or want 15 breaks a day. Would love to get back on the farm however the longer I am out of the game the more i realise I am getting out of touch. It annoys me all the young ones who just want to laze around the house. All I need is someone to take me under there wing for a while and I could solve somebody's staff problem. lol

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RWG Contracts said:

Where are you?

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Shaun619 said:

As a 23 year old guy I find people my age and older who just don't want to work. I grew up on a farm and learned what work was and although I am not on a farm at the moment as there was not a spot for me around where i grew up when the time came to make a steady income to pay my bills. (Currently a supervisor in a factory store) I constantly have people working for me who either do anything to avoid the graft or want 15 breaks a day. Would love to get back on the farm however the longer I am out of the game the more i realise I am getting out of touch. It annoys me all the young ones who just want to laze around the house. All I need is someone to take me under there wing for a while and I could solve somebody's staff problem. lol

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Shaun619 said:

Up in sunny scotland

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Turra farmer said:

So not the west of Scotland if it's sunny[/

In the east of Scotland myself Angus area.

Just grinds my gears to see some people given everything on a plate then pee it away. How will they pay the bills in 20 years?

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Turra farmer said:

I'm Aberdeenshire farming , with construction company in Aberdeen , always tried to find guy who can work in both business

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ARW said:

We just do 7.30 - 5.30 we will do less in winter. We normally have a good laugh.

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Steakeater said:

This is very true. Employers seem to think that staff are just lucky to be offered the job! Truth is, employees are also interviewing the potential employer to see if their place suits them just like the employer is interviewing the employee to see if he suits their place! Most employers forget this!

I have been offered jobs and they want an answer right away even though when they interviewed me they said I would have to wait for an answer as they have other candidiates to interview. When I tell them they will have to wait for an answer because I have interviews lined up with other companies they tend to get very arsey very quick and a number withdraw their offers. This proves to me that they would have been difficult to work for right away!

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mossop said:

I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of the staff shortages as I had an ad on here a couple of times last year looking for a new exciting position and only had a couple of replies , even though I'm keen to work long hours , turn my hand to anything and don't need an expensive autosteer system to be accurate and tidy with thirty years experience it seems my skills are going to waste so don't see much experienced staff shortage going on

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Turra farmer said:

Well said , I employ Brickes and in a good week they maybe gross 1000 , but an average week is maybe 700 , they work outside in rain or snow , lift heavy granite lintels and sills ,
They don't sit on a tractor which has a seat comfy as a sofa , climate controlled and good sound system , and now even an automatic steering system , the slurry tanker loads itself , there is no other industry apart from construction where you have to heavy lift and work in sometimes poor conditions , and maybe commute an hour to work ,

Farm work is either in your blood or it isn't ,

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brynseiri said:

I think if you are going to be a sole trader in agriculture, the IR35 rules should be altered so you must run your own tractor and equipment, not just a van, or own livestock and certain equipment. A sort of minimum set up investment, allowing you to work for more than one employer at the right rate. Meaning unless you offer true services, not just you and your thermos, then everyone will have to take on people PAYE. True services could be defined as you milk for someone, but have a hoof trimming crush to do the hoof trimming at the price rate, and go trim for others. Or you lead silage but are hired in with your tractor, or have kit on hire to the man like a trailer. If none of these arrangements suit you or an employer and you have no sense of free enterprise, then you should be employed by these people paye IMO. I know that's more or less how ir35 works, but the investment benchmark needs to be set. The cowboys who string kids along self employed to suit themselves and take the pisss would soon either have to change or go out of business. Edit- at such low rates of pay, being self employed only suits the employer, the employee might as well be working for free. If you're young and looking for work, and an employer wants you self employed for low pay, take a step back and see what's what, no one who works like that will have staff that have been working for them for years, they'll have a high turnover of labour, that's a fact.

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holywell farmer said:

Had offer myself to go drive tractor at 7 an hour said thanks but no thanks

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