Fertiliser Price Tracker

Victor

Member
Location
Devon
You phoned someone today??

There has been plenty of opportunities to buy well last six months! being greedy has its risks.

It ain't going to get much better, so just order what you want and be happy.

No not today and I have asked two different suppliers in the last 2 weeks cause I was dealing with something else at the time and it just so happened when I ring or asked them they couldn't give me a price. As all my storage is unavailable till feb I don't start asking till now.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
You can buy forward - I usually buy my solid fert June to October even though I can't take delivery until December onwards as I clear grain stores. Sometimes you have to ring around until you find a merchant who will go that far ahead.
 

crazy_bull

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
No not today and I have asked two different suppliers in the last 2 weeks cause I was dealing with something else at the time and it just so happened when I ring or asked them they couldn't give me a price. As all my storage is unavailable till feb I don't start asking till now.
There have been Feb terms available for AN for the last 8 weeks at least, and 6-8 months on urea.



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dinderleat

Member
Location
Wells
On the 11th November I had a price for 2 Arctics of nitran for 189 delivery feb split payments March April May glad I booked it. There is always someone willing to do something. Next year will be totally different and everyone will book early.
 

Bullring

Member
Location
Cornwall
Fertiliser seems to be on the move again, been told by supplier this morning urea has jumped £25/t overnight and all prices for Feb delivery will be withdrawn as of dinnertime.
 

e3120

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Unless they plan ahead & book something for later delivery
Not all the stock boys are bad planners, so many will have this year covered. Point is more that the beef/sheep guys will have to fork out for dearer fert next time and dearer feed as well. Milk/grain prices get all the headlines and drag inputs with them but how much beef price perk was there off the vote - 5% down?

Assuming that we're not capable of assessing the market and planning ahead is a bit typical of the class system that exists across the sectors.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Class system across the sectors with posts like that? Forward sales are available to anyone who bothers to pick up the phone. Yawn.

Arable farmers will also pay more for fert if the price goes up ,just as it will for fuel, steel & agchems. Your point is what exactly?
 

e3120

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Class system across the sectors with posts like that? Forward sales are available to anyone who bothers to pick up the phone. Yawn.

Arable farmers will also pay more for fert if the price goes up ,just as it will for fuel, steel & agchems. Your point is what exactly?
My point is the first phrase of my reply, contradicting your previous post, which miss-understood the spirit of the one before.
 

pine_guy

Member
Location
North Cumbria
Unless they plan ahead & book something for later delivery

Not all the stock boys are bad planners, so many will have this year covered. Point is more that the beef/sheep guys will have to fork out for dearer fert next time and dearer feed as well. Milk/grain prices get all the headlines and drag inputs with them but how much beef price perk was there off the vote - 5% down?

Assuming that we're not capable of assessing the market and planning ahead is a bit typical of the class system that exists across the sectors.

Class system across the sectors with posts like that? Forward sales are available to anyone who bothers to pick up the phone. Yawn.

Arable farmers will also pay more for fert if the price goes up ,just as it will for fuel, steel & agchems. Your point is what exactly?

My point is the first phrase of my reply, contradicting your previous post, which miss-understood the spirit of the one before.

Not trying to start an argument guys. Brisel, e3120 was right my comment was a bit tongue in cheek. and more suggesting that inputs are rising as milk and grain are rising, amongst a lot of other factor too. I'm 300 acres, I grow up to 100 acres of grain, roughly 300 cattle from bucket reared calves, suckler cows and finish everything. I also probably average about 1000 sheep as well. But I don't milk cows, but I'm quite aware I'll struggle to rent local grass this summer as the milk boys will be turning the taps on and will pay over the odds.

I bought my spring fert requirements a couple of months ago and have some left over from summer, the average price of which will be looking good against current prices. But the next load I buy may not look so good. If only we had a glass ball (there is no mystic meg smiley)

**Edit - forgot to mention beef and sheep are on there arse and currently make about as much money as sub 20p/l milk. and I have a good understanding of milking cows as we (well my Dad really as I was at uni) milked them up to foot and mouth.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Not trying to start an argument guys. Brisel, e3120 was right my comment was a bit tongue in cheek. and more suggesting that inputs are rising as milk and grain are rising, amongst a lot of other factor too. I'm 300 acres, I grow up to 100 acres of grain, roughly 300 cattle from bucket reared calves, suckler cows and finish everything. I also probably average about 1000 sheep as well. But I don't milk cows, but I'm quite aware I'll struggle to rent local grass this summer as the milk boys will be turning the taps on and will pay over the odds.

I bought my spring fert requirements a couple of months ago and have some left over from summer, the average price of which will be looking good against current prices. But the next load I buy may not look so good. If only we had a glass ball (there is no mystic meg smiley)

**Edit - forgot to mention beef and sheep are on there arse and currently make about as much money as sub 20p/l milk. and I have a good understanding of milking cows as we (well my Dad really as I was at uni) milked them up to foot and mouth.

No worries. I was being a bit belligerent too. :)

There's never a crystal ball when you need one, but 9 years in 10 the demand exceeds the supply in spring. I hate selling grain at harvest but I can't store it all - I guess the flip side is not having storage for fertiliser so buying hand to mouth in spring when you want to apply it after turnout or when the straw barn is empty to make room for it. Last year was that exception.

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Source: AHDB Dairy https://dairy.ahdb.org.uk/market-in...ser-prices/uk-fertiliser-prices/#.WHTwW7kXdp0

There's some useful historical data in the links on the page - buying in spring is rarely the cheapest. Worth analysing the average uplift in price from the beginning of new season to March to do a cost/benefit exercise for renovating a shed or building a new one just for fertiliser IMO. Would 10 years of saving £40/t be worth it by the time you've tied up the cash in a building & the product itself???
 

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