BBC Fake News

wanton dwarf · Feb 19, 2017

Stuart J said:
Really? All I saw was an aide refusing to answer questions....?

What I saw was someone who decided it was not his place to reply given he did not know the facts because he was not in the room at the time.

In other words ... he didn't make some sh@t up ... unlike the BBC, CNN, The Guardian etc.

BTW thaks for putting these videos on, I hadn't seen any of them.

reverand · Feb 19, 2017

What is the BBC agenda?

rob1 · Feb 19, 2017

reverand said:
What is the BBC agenda?

Well it should be to be impartial and report news not to comment from either political side but they plainly have forgotten this

Stuart J · Feb 19, 2017

Roger Perry said:
But not of the United States of America.

Why does that make any difference.

Are you really just prepared to sit and stick your fingers in your ears whenever you hear information or a question you don't like or don't want to answer?
I've asked you two questions in this and another thread but you choose to ignore them. Is it because you don't like the answer?

bluegreen · Feb 19, 2017

Its not because Roger doesn't like the question Stuart, its because you don't see the bigger picture! The Left with the globalist agenda for a centralised one world government have just been kicked out of power (Brexit & Trump) and they simply cant accept its happened!! Metaphorically speaking they have been locked out of the cockpit of their own plane and somebody else has taken over the controls and has changed the flight path. And now all they can do is knock on the door, holler and shout and try to get back in. But the new pilot knows where he is heading and doesn't care about the background noise.

All the main media companies have long been owned and controlled by powerful people who are all on board with the centralised government plan. The Democrats, Camerons Government, Blairs Government, Merkel, Hollande & Sarkozy, Rupert Murdoch, George Soros, Lucifer

etc are all part of the same idealogy and therefore complicit to the Bilderbergers Agenda 21.

So Stuart if you are happy to be associated with the above then cheer for the anchorman, but if not, cheer for the unflappable Mr Gorka

Stuart J · Feb 19, 2017

bluegreen said:
Its not because Roger doesn't like the question Stuart, its because you don't see the bigger picture! The Left with the globalist agenda for a centralised one world government have just been kicked out of power (Brexit & Trump) and they simply cant accept its happened!! Metaphorically speaking they have been locked out of the cockpit of their own plane and somebody else has taken over the controls and has changed the flight path. And now all they can do is knock on the door, holler and shout and try to get back in. But the new pilot knows where he is heading and doesn't care about the background noise.

All the main media companies have long been owned and controlled by powerful people who are all on board with the centralised government plan. The Democrats, Camerons Government, Blairs Government, Merkel, Hollande & Sarkozy, Rupert Murdoch, George Soros, Lucifer etc are all part of the same idealogy and therefore complicit to the Bilderbergers Agenda 21.

So Stuart if you are happy to be associated with the above then cheer for the anchorman, but if not, cheer for the unflappable Mr Gorka

That's no reason to ignore some pretty serious errors the President has made, and pretend it's all ok and everything is peachy.

The president is THE main contributer to fake news.
He CREATED fake news by releasing completely fake footage following the failed Yemen mission claiming it to be new.

He CREATED fake news just yesterday I believe citing a serious crimes in Sweden due to immigration. There was no such incident.

He CREATED Fake news when he insisted that Obama was not a US citizen.

He CREATED fake news when he claimed thousands of muslims were cheering after 9/11 in New Jersey.

And so on and so forth.

He's a compulsive liar and a hypocrite.

bluegreen · Feb 19, 2017

Congratulations Stuart, you have been successfully brainwashed by the establishment

Stuart J · Feb 19, 2017

bluegreen said:
Congratulations Stuart, you have been successfully brainwashed by the establishment

Are you saying he didn't say those things...?

reverand · Feb 19, 2017

Stuart J said:
That's no reason to ignore some pretty serious errors the President has made, and pretend it's all ok and everything is peachy.

The president is THE main contributer to fake news.
He CREATED fake news by releasing completely fake footage following the failed Yemen mission claiming it to be new.

He CREATED fake news just yesterday I believe citing a serious crimes in Sweden due to immigration. There was no such incident.

He CREATED Fake news when he insisted that Obama was not a US citizen.

He CREATED fake news when he claimed thousands of muslims were cheering after 9/11 in New Jersey.

And so on and so forth.

He's a compulsive liar and a hypocrite.

He is a compulsive liar. He is quiet happy to sit there and blatantly lie. He did not however invent fake news.

reverand · Feb 19, 2017

Yes but what is there agenda? You are implying they have a mission

dstudent · Feb 19, 2017

Well that was a bit of a train wreck on both sides really. But the BBC guy he was bad, he played right into the guy' hand. He should ve just asked straight questions and then possibly debete the answers. He did sound patronising and the way he started the 'interview' really let himself open to the other guy ' objections and critisism of bias.
Having said that it s a case of pot calling here, considering the all tump campaign was made up of 'fakenews' upon 'fake news' , and misinformation. Now they want to play the victim? Please.
However even me, I m tired of hearing how 'unhinged' the tump was at the press conference, which I did not watch.
In regards to the Gorka guy,he is the national security adviser and tump' s aide , one minute he says that everything is running smooth and he is always there and privy of everithing, then he claims ignorance and of not being 'in the room' . I m not buying that, sorry.

JohnGalway · Feb 19, 2017

Look what happened in Sweden Friday night

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a...-happened-in-sweden-friday-night-mr-president

reverand · Feb 19, 2017

Trump is definitely having a taste of his own medicine. Maybe BBC has been drawn in a little to far but they are being attacked. Evan is clearly taking things personally as a journalist working for the BBC but he is trying to keep a reputable name whilst being berated by a clever man who knows his position is safe and whose job it is is to counter the argument with the same argument. Neither side will win.
It's like one of those arguments that just go around and around.

dstudent · Feb 19, 2017

reverand said:
Trump is definitely having a taste of his own medicine. Maybe BBC has been drawn in a little to far but they are being attacked. Evan is clearly taking things personally as a journalist working for the BBC but he is trying to keep a reputable name whilst being berated by a clever man who knows his position is safe and whose job it is is to counter the argument with the same argument. Neither side will win.
It's like one of those arguments that just go around and around.

I don t watch the BBC it is useless like many mainstream media, and I feel that it lost its edge long time ago.
It is the role of the media to be critical, but that was a poor show indeed.

reverand · Feb 19, 2017

Fair enough. I listen to the bbc4 news mainly and the odd channel 4 news.
I would say they are as reliable as any other news outlet.
The clip shows more about human nature than it does about the content. There has been a quiet battle going on for a good year before trump came to power,when he publicly attacked the big media centres in the US. He left himself open as a egotistical self-made billionaire who likes things done his way, absolutely perfect candidate for the Media to sink their teeth in to.
Now it's pay back time.

RobFZS · Feb 19, 2017

reverand said:
Fair enough. I listen to the bbc4 news mainly and the odd channel 4 news.
I would say they are as reliable as any other news outlet.
The clip shows more about human nature than it does about the content. There has been a quiet battle going on for a good year before trump came to power,when he publicly attacked the big media centres in the US. He left himself open as a egotistical self-made billionaire who likes things done his way, absolutely perfect candidate for the Media to sink their teeth in to.
Now it's pay back time.

2 of the biggest portrayals of leftist news then ?

Trump loves it, the media plays in to his hands, all this last week we've heard about hims slating the media, nothing on anything else, hardly being held accountable is it

It goes back to the campaign where Clinton got a free ride to do anything, got given debate questions the lot, and he still won, if he still wins through all that, the media needs to change tact.

reverand · Feb 19, 2017

I personally would consider it particularly left. That of course depends on where the viewer sits
I think both the media and the trump circus are enjoying it to a degree. Where do you get your news from @RobFZS , you seen a knowledgeable chap
The above is wouldnt

Muck Spreader · Feb 19, 2017

What is there to discuss about Trump? It doesn't need the media to interpret what he says, you can see his lips move or read his tweets. If he says it's OK to be a misogynist, not pay your taxes, Muslims and Mexicans are bad dudes etc, we have to then believe that's what he actually thinks. There isn't any slant the media can put on it.

RobFZS · Feb 19, 2017

Same place the bbc etc get theirs from, Twitter ,from no particular source in general, you can generally tell something is untrue, the 24hr news cycle means they're not just reporting the news, they're commenting on it aswell with their own spin, you can't do that soo much in under 140 characters on twitter.

What i'v noticed more and more is how many political editors these news channels have, how many of them are sat in them offices ready to just report what comes in, not many , they're all sat there spinning it to get a story that can last the whole day

Micheal Crick formally of newsnight is abit different being an investigative journalists and does find alot out about election fraud which sometimes can be interesting, but the hyperbole of Trump being Hitler does seem to grate and that gets switched off after a while, abit like i wouldn't even waste my time looking in the Express, do they know how embarrassing they look with their endless drivel on leaving the eu which bares no resembles to reality

rob1 · Feb 19, 2017

I think the problem is that those who dislike trump believe everything that is printed or broadcast that puts a negative point of view about him, I dont doubt some of it is true and am no fan of his but when I see stuff that is obviously biased then it makes me question anything the media say, to me that is a very bad and worrying thing to be happening , elected governments should be ruling us, not any part of the media through their slant, left or right. Several news reports have been quoted in this thread as facts but can the poster prove any of them are the truth ?

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