gone up the hill
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Yep, but I have been thru some very tough personal times in the past 20 years and thus if I could survive that then I will survive post brexit and no subs!
Tesco stocking Argentinian beef in some Welsh stores!!
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Yep, but I have been thru some very tough personal times in the past 20 years and thus if I could survive that then I will survive post brexit and no subs!
Fair enough, arguably for those in the right place at the right time Brexit will bring opportunity to take over from those who fail.
gone up the hill
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No I assumed that it wouldn't be good for UK AG but I expected the likes of the NFU to stand up and fight for us to limit the damage as much as possible.
I certainly didn't expect them to roll over like a drunk on a street corner on a Sat night ( which is what the NFU are doing ) and give up the fight for UK AG before talks have even started.
Hilly
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Maybe.
Did you really think Brexit was going to get you a level playing field
our civil servants loooooove rules and regulations.The second part of your post I totally agree with, but why didn't you do that anyway / before?
Cowabunga
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None as blind, and all that.
Best of luck competing in future and hope your forecast of prosperity on the back of cheap imports works for all.
gone up the hill
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Did you really think Brexit was going to get you a level playing field
The second part of your post I totally agree with, but why didn't you do that anyway / before?
No but I certainly didn't expect the NFU to support direct subs to go to be replaced by totally unworkable ( both on farm and at RPA etc level ) stewardship schemes and useless insurance schemes that wont work!
Im just a small fish in a very big pond, I have been pushing hard for more direct marketing of UK produce to UK consumers thus why im on the backs of the AHDB both on here and directly all the time as I pay them to promote my produce ( which they are failing to do by a massive margin! )
Even the NFU are now taking the AHDB to task on this issue ( see this weeks FW )
gone up the hill
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You really need a very strong cup of black coffee!
The ONLY thing the UK Gov wants is food as CHEAP as possible!
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We certainly need better promotion of home produced food. We have quality assurance and some of the highest standards in the world yet nobody really ever gets to hear about it, so it all feels a bit pointless. Maybe if DEFRA shifted its resources to promotion of UK food rather than nitpicking over the width of watercourse buffers, we would be in a better place, competitively.
The NFU had a huge campaign to say voting in would be the safer option for farmers. There were no promises of any subs if we left the EU - the only promises were free trade and cheap imports.
You voted out anyway despite the NFUs advice.
Yet now you expect the NFU to try and save you? How do you think their negotiation with government is going to go?
Guy Smith: "Well Theresa, the farmers have all ignored our advice to remain and voted for Brexit."
Theresa Smith: "We'll finally be able to get rid of those pesky subsidies then, and there is plenty of cheap food available on the world market to feed the UK."
Guy Smith: "No no no. They still want to keep their subsidies and definitely don't want free trade."
Theresa May: "So why the feck did they vote for Brexit then?"
Guy Smith: shrugs shoulders...
Cowabunga
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Ha ha I always talk sense
Yep I did but I voted out because of the bigger picture, I knew a out win wouldn't be good for UK AG but I never thought the likes of the NFU etc would actually sell us down the river like they seem intent on doing ( as they agree with the NT etc on direct subs going ) when they actually should be standing up and fighting for us!
The bigger picture that disadvantages all UK industry and business you mean? Where is the upside? Perhaps cheap food for the person on the London Clapham omnibus IS the upside.
Just back from pub and a couple of points of Shropshire Gold, so in a hopeful mood.
gone up the hill
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I totally agree something seriously needs to change in this area and the likes of Laura Ryan ( Head of the AHDB beef and Lamb section ) needs to pull her finger's out on this area and make massive changes, more promotion and less BS like telling us how to read medicine bottles is what needs to happen from the AHDB!
Can you honestly not see the irony in this post?
Cowabunga
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I can't 'like' that enough. Maybe reality is now just beginning to set in with at least some farmers that were/are so keen on Brexit and free trade.
I thought you wanted a bonfire of red tape and to be allowed to use growth hormones? What exactly is it that you want in your Brexit nirvana!?
Hilly
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By the way, sub was is dropping while we in the EU, the eu is going down the shitter so better we go now while the going is good, if we hung on just prolong the agony.
gone up the hill
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Bigger picture, less immigration of people that only want to live here for benefits and not work ( anyone who wants to come here too work hard and support themselves will/ should always be welcome Brexit or no Brexit imo ), taking back control of our own rules/ laws, not being told by Germany what we can/ cannot do and because millions of people died in two world wars to protect our freedom and that was being eroded by unelected people in Brussels year on year is some of the reasons I voted out!
Upside is that in the long term Brexit will be good for ALL the UK but yep there will be pain to start with and thus why we must apply as many pain killers as possible short term after Brexit.
Cowabunga
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The demise of the EU is much exaggerated. The only part of the EU that has broken and is probably heading down the shitter is little old UK whose population is arrogant enough to think it can do better outside the club.
If it was not for the UK leaving it would all be chugging along quite nicely and it would evolve for the better as time and circumstances dictated. Now its us against them and all of them collectively against us.
If it was not for the UK leaving it would all be chugging along quite nicely and it would evolve for the better as time and circumstances dictated. Now its us against them and all of them collectively against us.