caveman
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Your so funny.
I just want a simple answer
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Your so funny.
Old McDonald
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I know a couple who divorced last year because the wife decided she wanted to be divorced.
To save costs they both employed the same lawyer. The final court hearing was in the morning and they went to lunch together immediately afterwards. The husband (or ex) paid.
The UK is not "divorcing" the EU it is giving up membership of the organisation. There is no reason why the parting could not have been amicable. Certainly there are financial implications, but these are under discussion in another thread.
To save costs they both employed the same lawyer. The final court hearing was in the morning and they went to lunch together immediately afterwards. The husband (or ex) paid.
The UK is not "divorcing" the EU it is giving up membership of the organisation. There is no reason why the parting could not have been amicable. Certainly there are financial implications, but these are under discussion in another thread.
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On the other hand, husband wants to run off with the au pair, wife is so angry she is determined she wants the house, the cars, the holiday caravan, to make the point clearer, she cuts up all his clothes.... Then when she really starts to get angry she tries to stop him seeing his kids
Old McDonald
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I can understand the wife being angry.
Not quite the same thing though is it? The UK is not demanding all the EU assets.
Not quite the same thing though is it? The UK is not demanding all the EU assets.
very good analogy, no wonder he wanted to leave, was very much like mine except neithe rof us ran off with anyone else, she is still pee'd off but I am now better off and much happier, just like the uk will be
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The Donald
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Brexit is dead. Theresa Remainer May will have a very large parliamentary majority next term. Just what she needs to sell Brexit down the drain. We will end up still tied up in the EU regulations, paying a kings ransom year on year in order to have access to the single market. Meanwhile we will have nobody in the club to speak for us and to influence policy. To top it all off, sterling will rise against all major currencies. It's turning out to be a nightmare as far as I can see. I regret now I didn't vote remain and I regret Brexit won the referendum. Why? Because we are ending up with the worst of all possible outcomes.
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This was the inevitable and only outcome of a leave vote
. I would say you are bang on the button.Old McDonald
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What a pair of defeatists.
If everybody who was British was as upbeat and optimistic as you two over the last few hundred years we would all be slaves on some European mainland farm or in a mill, office, factory or whatever.
For starters I suggest you both learn about Sir Richard Grenville, The Revenge and the Battle of Flores, excellently put into poetry by Tennyson too. That was true British fighting spirit. I despair that there are men out there who are afraid of what a few foreign governments might try to do to hurt the present UK. Stand up to them. Try reading Kingsley's Hereward the Wake too.
There is no hope for the UK with the attitude you two have. Fortunately not everyone is so pessimistic.
If everybody who was British was as upbeat and optimistic as you two over the last few hundred years we would all be slaves on some European mainland farm or in a mill, office, factory or whatever.
For starters I suggest you both learn about Sir Richard Grenville, The Revenge and the Battle of Flores, excellently put into poetry by Tennyson too. That was true British fighting spirit. I despair that there are men out there who are afraid of what a few foreign governments might try to do to hurt the present UK. Stand up to them. Try reading Kingsley's Hereward the Wake too.
There is no hope for the UK with the attitude you two have. Fortunately not everyone is so pessimistic.
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The Donald
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And where pray tell me did I mention anything about any foreign government?
I referred singularily to our own future government! Or should I say our own freely elected dictatorship! Dictatorship in the sense of calamitous collapse of the main opposition!
Furthermore I'll not be taking any lecture about British fighting spirit or the lack thereof from an armchair general sitting pretty in the safety of the EU. You have a brass neck in my humble opinion. Don't ever diss the fighting spirit of those of us who voted out knowing the we live, work and take our chances right here in Britain. We are well entitled to be aggrieved at the apparent upcoming abandonment of the Brexit we voted for. Mightn't matter to you, as you are well and truely keeping all your options open.
Old McDonald
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See what happens when part of a post is quoted
You did not even quote the sentence. Nobody fals for tricks like that.
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Old McDonald
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@The Donald, It was mainly the ending to your previous post "we are ending up with the worst of all possible outcomes". Negotiations have not even begun. Nobody knows what the outcome will be. People can make guesses, but that is all.
You are yet another one, who, without knowing the reasons why, object to a British citizen temporarily living in a foreign country - when it suits you. I do not see you, or those of a similar disposition, complaining about the British posters on here who live in France, NZ or Australia. Bear in mind some of them have decided they will live there permanently and may even take up foreign citizenship.
I have pointed out several times on this forum (due to similar remarks to yours) that I remain liable to UK tax. I consider my situation and future intentions permit me to join in these debates.
You may choose, or be obliged, according to circumstances, to live permanently or temporarily elsewhere, so it is dangerous to condemn others who are temporarily out of the country. It might happen to you.
You are yet another one, who, without knowing the reasons why, object to a British citizen temporarily living in a foreign country - when it suits you. I do not see you, or those of a similar disposition, complaining about the British posters on here who live in France, NZ or Australia. Bear in mind some of them have decided they will live there permanently and may even take up foreign citizenship.
I have pointed out several times on this forum (due to similar remarks to yours) that I remain liable to UK tax. I consider my situation and future intentions permit me to join in these debates.
You may choose, or be obliged, according to circumstances, to live permanently or temporarily elsewhere, so it is dangerous to condemn others who are temporarily out of the country. It might happen to you.
linga
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Do you have any evidence for all this ?
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The Donald
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My reading of it, is that it's becoming more clear that the big banks are dead serious about moving a big slice of their business out of London to Frankfurt etc, . It's happening already. The boss of Nissan clearly got to Mrs. May. She clearly had to make him a guarantee which she can't or won't tell us about. It seems to me that the initial belief that we could or would or should get a very very good deal from EU on the basis that they need us more than we need them, has now faded. The EU has shown no sign that it is willing to give us a sweet deal on that basis. On top of all of that the fear of European fragmentation which was very real 12 months ago has now also faded. Elections in Netherlands, Austria and France have shown that clearly. Merkel looks to be gaining against the AFD in Germany and will probably be chancellor once again. The Euro itself has stabilised and is increasing in the FX markets. QE seems to have done the trick and is about to be tapered away .
In summary we don't have anywhere near the bargaining power today that we had a year ago. Mrs. May is not a gambler and is not wreckless by nature and will not want to leave with no deal. There will be a deal. The kind of deal which sees us paying for access to the single market and accepting the four main principles of that market including freedom of movement. Nice fat majority in the house and dead man walking Corbyn is exactly what Mrs. May needs to deliver just that.
If she does this that the end of the Tory party for years,it's full brexit from now on,how it should of been from the start it just the libtards carnt get their little heads around it yet
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