UK Farming subs to continue until 2022.......MABYE WE DO MATTER??

Bossfarmer · May 18, 2017

http://www.fwi.co.uk/news/conservative-manifesto-pledges-to-extend-funding-for-farmers.htm

Conservatives pledge to continue funding until 2022, mabye farmers votes do matter afterall?

stablegirl · May 18, 2017

Great news, realistically did they have time to change our before then!

Bones · May 18, 2017

Then what ?

The Ruminant · May 18, 2017

It says it's going to change to an agri-environment scheme at the start of the next parliament though, so not subs as we, sorry you, have known them.

Bossfarmer · May 18, 2017

The Ruminant said:
It says it's going to change to an agri-environment scheme at the start of the next parliament though, so not subs as we, sorry you, have known them.

same level of funding though

lazy farmer · May 18, 2017

Bossfarmer · May 18, 2017

lazy farmer said:

why so sad?

Goweresque · May 18, 2017

Bossfarmer said:
http://www.fwi.co.uk/news/conservative-manifesto-pledges-to-extend-funding-for-farmers.htm

Conservatives pledge to continue funding until 2022, mabye farmers votes do matter afterall?

Not really, if the election was neck and neck then maybe. But with the Tories hoovering up votes from all the Labour Brexit voters who can't stand Corbyn, I doubt it. But even then farming votes are predominantly in rural seat, which are overwhelmingly Tory anyway. Elections are won and lost in the suburbs. And there's what, a few hundred K farmers, most of whom vote Tory anyway. Its a damn expensive way of buying votes, if it was, which it isn't.

Basically its a holding position. Theresa May's government is going to have its work cut out over the next 5 years dealing with Brexit. All the Civil Service manpower is going to be aimed at that, and all the legislative time in Parliament will be taken up with it too. There is no time to start a wholesale re-evaluation of something as minor as farming policy, so the sensible thing to do is park it for 5 years. Then come back to it when there's more time.

So chin up! You've got 5 more years of guaranteed free money coming your way, approx £400k in your case apparently. So better invest it wisely to be able to live without it in 5-10 years time.

fudge · May 18, 2017

I am surprised by this. Vote May££££££££££££££££££££.

lazy farmer · May 18, 2017

Bossfarmer said:
why so sad?

because there will five more yrs of pointless threads on subsidies.......................

Bossfarmer · May 18, 2017

Goweresque said:
Not really, if the election was neck and neck then maybe. But with the Tories hoovering up votes from all the Labour Brexit voters who can't stand Corbyn, I doubt it. But even then farming votes are predominantly in rural seat, which are overwhelmingly Tory anyway. Elections are won and lost in the suburbs. And there's what, a few hundred K farmers, most of whom vote Tory anyway. Its a damn expensive way of buying votes, if it was, which it isn't.

Basically its a holding position. Theresa May's government is going to have its work cut out over the next 5 years dealing with Brexit. All the Civil Service manpower is going to be aimed at that, and all the legislative time in Parliament will be taken up with it too. There is no time to start a wholesale re-evaluation of something as minor as farming policy, so the sensible thing to do is park it for 5 years. Then come back to it when there's more time.

So chin up! You've got 5 more years of guaranteed free money coming your way, approx £400k in your case apparently. So better invest it wisely to be able to live without it in 5-10 years time.

they could well have not mentioned it in the run up to the election and then got rid of them if they wanted but they havent!

willy · May 18, 2017

What happens if we end up with WTO rules??

The Ruminant · May 18, 2017

Bossfarmer said:
same level of funding though

Yes but, from experience, there are many more hoops to jump through to obtain agri-environment money. Also, the schemes are set up to favour nature at the cost of production. Will your ego be able to cope with being one of the low input - LOW OUTPUT (

) producers?

matthew · May 18, 2017

The Ruminant said:
It says it's going to change to an agri-environment scheme at the start of the next parliament though, so not subs as we, sorry you, have known them.

Reading the threads on the new Stewardship agreements, lack of cash, lack of communication and general lack of interest from .NE means some have pulled out to grow maize. More profitable.
So keep it simple, stupid. KISS.

onthehoof · May 18, 2017

But aren't they pulling in opposite directions by pledging to 'grow more, sell more and export more' while working with Natural England (who from my experience have only ever wanted to reduce production) to produce a 25 year plan.

Hilly · May 18, 2017

There is no keeping you bunch of pessimists happy.

Hilly · May 18, 2017

Goweresque said:
Not really, if the election was neck and neck then maybe. But with the Tories hoovering up votes from all the Labour Brexit voters who can't stand Corbyn, I doubt it. But even then farming votes are predominantly in rural seat, which are overwhelmingly Tory anyway. Elections are won and lost in the suburbs. And there's what, a few hundred K farmers, most of whom vote Tory anyway. Its a damn expensive way of buying votes, if it was, which it isn't.

Basically its a holding position. Theresa May's government is going to have its work cut out over the next 5 years dealing with Brexit. All the Civil Service manpower is going to be aimed at that, and all the legislative time in Parliament will be taken up with it too. There is no time to start a wholesale re-evaluation of something as minor as farming policy, so the sensible thing to do is park it for 5 years. Then come back to it when there's more time.

So chin up! You've got 5 more years of guaranteed free money coming your way, approx £400k in your case apparently. So better invest it wisely to be able to live without it in 5-10 years time.

I whould and will be looking at retiring in 10 years so all is good.

worker · May 18, 2017

The Ruminant said:
Yes but, from experience, there are many more hoops to jump through to obtain agri-environment money. Also, the schemes are set up to favour nature at the cost of production. Will your ego be able to cope with being one of the low input - LOW OUTPUT () producers?

No problem

spin cycle · May 18, 2017

willy said:
What happens if we end up with WTO rules??

well they'll be import taxes of 46% on cheese and 20% on tomatos for starters.....tarrifs cut both ways

the supermarkets/govt have got the wind up about rising food prices....thats why subsidies must continue because a countryside unplanted.....risks huge food inflation

willy · May 18, 2017

spin cycle said:
well they'll be import taxes of 46% on cheese and 20% on tomatos for starters.....tarrifs cut both ways

the supermarkets/govt have got the wind up about rising food prices....thats why subsidies must continue because a countryside unplanted.....risks huge food inflation

Yes but I thought you can't have direct subsidys?

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