Claydon drill

cornishking · Aug 1, 2017

Good morning, I have been browsing the classified pages on the forum and can't help but notice the disproportionate amount of claydon drills for sale. I own a 3metre hybrid and it makes me wonder if why so many are selling? Am I missing something?

Brisel · Aug 1, 2017

cornishking said:
Good morning, I have been browsing the classified pages on the forum and can't help but notice the disproportionate amount of claydon drills for sale. I own a 3metre hybrid and it makes me wonder if why so many are selling? Am I missing something?

Hard to say really. I know of 3 members who are selling Claydons due to buying no till drills. Hardly a step backwards, is it? I'm sure there are some who bought them thinking they would fix everything but they haven't lived up to expectations. I don't think they are a cure for blackgrass/other weeds & my slug pellet usage has certainly gone up!

Devon James · Aug 1, 2017

We wont be selling ours anytime soon. On our second machine. I think with any system you need to give it, and yourself, a couple of years to bed in to get the most out of it.

juke · Aug 1, 2017

claydon hybrid is the gateway to 750 nirvana. in our case we will be keeping the hybrid when the 750 arrives, different drills for different jobs.......

SilliamWhale · Aug 1, 2017

cornishking said:
Good morning, I have been browsing the classified pages on the forum and can't help but notice the disproportionate amount of claydon drills for sale. I own a 3metre hybrid and it makes me wonder if why so many are selling? Am I missing something?

They have quite a few models and so maybe sometimes people want the updated one?

cornishking · Aug 2, 2017

thinking a little more...Most of the ones for sale are 3m models. perhaps people used the smallest model to dip their toe into strip till and now are upgrading. BTW i claydoned all my acreage this season and the crops are doing well. Wheat is almost ready, just got to wait for the weather LOL

Brisel · Aug 2, 2017

I'll bet Jeff Claydon sells 3 x 3m machines for every one 4, 4.8, 6 & 8m that leaves his yard - there will always be the smaller ones more likely to be traded. There's also the issue of hp requirement. Lots of Hybrids being pulled by tractors much bigger than they need to be but the drill works best at 12 kph & we've all got horrid bits of ground where establishment is hardest. @Flintstone swapped his 3m one for a 4m fairly quickly once he realised he could pull it better than he thought originally. My 6m doesn't take much pulling 70% of the time & you can hear the engine revs drop as it cruises along in auto on the lighter land. The other 30% of the time she's on her knees begging for mercy...

cornishking · Aug 2, 2017

6 metre!! you would struggle down here,

Crabtree · Aug 2, 2017

cornishking said:
Good morning, I have been browsing the classified pages on the forum and can't help but notice the disproportionate amount of claydon drills for sale. I own a 3metre hybrid and it makes me wonder if why so many are selling? Am I missing something?

Not all those drills would still be for sale, a lot of the adverts don't get updated when sold. Also a 3m drill results in an awful lot of turning and wheelings especially when a 5 or 6m drill was used before. With later drilling now the norm, perhaps the daily output of a 3m drill is not enough for a lot of farms ?

DRC · Aug 2, 2017

What would a decent entry level 3m cost?

cornishking · Aug 2, 2017

18-23 k ?

Brisel · Aug 2, 2017

cornishking said:
6 metre!! you would struggle down here,

Why? Fields not big enough?

I've got 370hp on the front or 61.7 hp per metre. That's the equivalent of 185 hp on a 3m. What do you use to pull yours, out of interest?

cornishking · Aug 2, 2017

mccormick mc135,
plenty of weight on the front and shes fine
Crikey 370 hp? dont see that sort down our way....

Brisel · Aug 2, 2017

I've got a few acres to do with it - about 2700 this year including cover crops.

cornishking · Aug 2, 2017

ah....

DRC · Aug 2, 2017

Why so much HP. I thought these drills didn't need all that grunt. Wouldn't need that much if you were powerharrowing and drilling .

Brisel · Aug 2, 2017

I'm pulling 19 legs at 6" deep over 6m width direct into uncultivated stubble. That's still a lot of horses required on stiff ground. Are you thinking of a no till drill where power requirement is around 25 - 30hp/m due to no disturbance?

Look at a Topdown/Discordon/Solo type machine of that width & whilst the Claydon is not moving as much soil or got the discs & press gangs you'd still need 500+ hp to do it. To sow 100 acres/day you'd need 500+ hp on an 8m power harrow/drill combi to do that kind of output on ground already ripped up. Compare like with like.

DRC · Aug 2, 2017

Maybe @cornishking is on boys land then, as he's pulling 3m with only 132 hp, which I thought was kinda the idea of a claydon.

Brisel · Aug 2, 2017

How deep you want to put the legs, how fast you want to go & how heavy/steep your land is makes a huge difference to power requirement

cornishking · Aug 2, 2017

Ha ha yeah, I don't think that I could pull the drill at 14k though. Brisel, do you have the leading tines at 6 inches all the time or adjust for different crops? I found a deeper setting on leading tines has lead to better establishment

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