Rate my lime

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Any expert opinions available on this lime? It’s screened lime, for use on permanent pasture.

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Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
First one is Torlundy, Fort William, second is Parkmore, Dufftown, both Leiths. Apparently mining different ends of the same seam that runs across the country.

Waiting on prices delivered.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
@Cab-over Pete should know..
Personally I prefer flour type lime that doesn’t spread far (6metres).
I’ve seen lime that looked more like nitram and when we had it tested they said it would probably take a 10 years to break down and do any good! It came down to the company were to tight to put new jaws in the crusher at the quarry!

I ended up paying almost double for the flour type lime because of haulage but I knew it would work almost instantly!
 
Sorry, only just noticed this.

The second is slightly finer than the first, but neither particularly brilliant. A ground lime would be better.

There is only a reactivity figure for the first one and it’s not very high. That will be partly down to the coarse grade. NV figures of 50%+ are ok.

It all depends on pricing. If one is only half as good as the other it doesn’t matter much as long as it’s less than half the price.

You pays your money, you takes your choice.
 

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Yeah they do milled lime in Torlundy, they said it was used more for animal feeds, and that it would be a good bit more expensive, I was too scared to ask for a price! Been quoted just over £37/t delivered (over 100 miles) for their screened stuff, but it’s only just over 20% through a 150 sieve
 

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Does anyone know of any good sources North of the border? Haulage would probably be a killer but it would be interesting to know.
 

Macsky

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
With 1980-2010 rainfall average of 1800mm, are you better with fewer larger applications, or more regular smaller ones, given that the soil is probably about pH 5.5-5.7
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
With 1980-2010 rainfall average of 1800mm, are you better with fewer larger applications, or more regular smaller ones, given that the soil is probably about pH 5.5-5.7
Are you generally quite acidic then with that high of a rainfall?
I’ve had really good arable ground before that would be totally unfesable to try and get above 6-6.2’s as the ground was very acidic. Nitrates travel better and you get more grass growth in a grass/clover ley at 6ph than at 7ph. Grass only with no clover is better suited to 7ph though ideally - obviously this could be totally unfesable.
 

Macsky

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
I think the vast majority of fields around these parts would be quite acidic yes. There is a quarry on the south of the island supplying a coarse mag lime, but having been used quite extensively in the past, ground will be getting too high in mag I reckon, did some samples years ago on a farm here and levels were all high or very high, one was off the chart. Maybe this was large chunks of it left in the sample and ground before analysis skewing the results, don’t know, no idea how long the bigger bits take to break down, if they do at all.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
I think the vast majority of fields around these parts would be quite acidic yes. There is a quarry on the south of the island supplying a coarse mag lime, but having been used quite extensively in the past, ground will be getting too high in mag I reckon, did some samples years ago on a farm here and levels were all high or very high, one was off the chart. Maybe this was large chunks of it left in the sample and ground before analysis skewing the results, don’t know, no idea how long the bigger bits take to break down, if they do at all.
Is there any really keen arable/dairy boys who are soil testing every 3-4 years etc up your way?
They might be able to tell you that 5.8 is basically the maximum you can get? Utilising and working out how best to utilise the ground you’ve got to work with can often change things dramatically and lime could have had no effect?
 

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