- Location
- Lincolnshire
They all dont go porous then!, maybe that engine isnt bored out so much?
Ford 1976
- Thread starter timff
- Start date
They all dont go porous then!, maybe that engine isnt bored out so much?
Roy Stokes
Member
- Location
- East Shropshire
As far as I'm aware the 600's were no where near as bad as the 10's for porosity although it wasn't unknown, the 10's had a longer stroke engine which didn't run a smooth, the vibrations caused bubbles in the water jacket which eat away at the block
Still it's own block. The 5600 was a 4.2 inch bore as opposed to a 4.4 inch in 46, 66 76 etc. It was bored and lined at the time of the rebuild , which cost me £1850 in June 1995. Money well spent. New valves in the head new pistols. New bearings and crank was as new so didn't need grinding. Oh and new oil pump , as man was afraid of hex drive rounding off more than pump worn out.
Not sure about that. We had a 4000 and a 4600 on the farm that had replacement ribbed blocks. The 2000 is on its original block. Never seen a pre Q 5600 before but have seen pre Q 7600, 6600 and a 4100 (I think? which must be pretty rare in itself).
- Location
- Lincolnshire
The 5600 was a new model when 600's came in, the old 5000 became the 6600 with a little more power.
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I think but probably wrong;
4600 = 64HP Force 4000=62
5600 =70HP
6600= 78HP (until later powerplus models anyway) Force 5000 =75
- Location
- N.Yorkshire
Yes 1976 was the year you could get a 5000, 6600 pre Q, and 6600 with the "world wide Q cab" as it was known all on the same P reg... I remember seeing the first 6600 Q at the Ford dealers I worked for back then. What a transformation it was, quiet cab with heater, radio, flat deck, opening back window, 2 speed wiper with washer and at the time what seemed to be daft front opening doors. I recall everyone saying how tall they were and how they'd never fit in that shed.... I don't think there has been any change in tractor design so prominent since the Q cab revolution of all makes.
Roy Stokes
Member
- Location
- East Shropshire
I hear what you are saying although the 4000/4600 didn't run smoothly at all reinforcing my argument, our old 6600 Fieco went round the clock and then some on the original block with a re-bore rebuild somewhere along the line, shame the same couldn't be said about our 6610
- Location
- south norfolk, uk
We've had this from new 
.
Brought six months after I was born.
Spud money
P reg.
Circa 6 k hrs on original engine. Porous block. Around 8k on 2nd engine. 3 or 4 clutches .
Fertilizer has killed it a bit
Oil bath air cleaner.
I did ask about why not q cab version to the old man....... Would have been too much money. That's why no pickup hitch and power steering too
.Brought six months after I was born.
Spud money
P reg.
Circa 6 k hrs on original engine. Porous block. Around 8k on 2nd engine. 3 or 4 clutches .
Fertilizer has killed it a bit
Oil bath air cleaner.
I did ask about why not q cab version to the old man.......
Would have been too much money. That's why no pickup hitch and power steering too Same here.We've had this from new
Brought six months after I was born.
Spud money
P reg.
Circa 6 k hrs on original engine. Porous block. Around 8k on 2nd engine. 3 or 4 clutches .
Fertilizer has killed it a bit
View attachment 623900
Oil bath air cleaner.
I did ask about why not q cab version to the old man.......
Dad bought S/H 4000 in 1978, instead of something with a Q cab. " Too much money ".Oh well, better than the Zetor 6718 he was thinking about at one stage...
- Location
- North West Wales
This reminds me, had a bit of an embarrassing moment few weeks ago. Rebuilding a 3900 engine, pistons were shot on it but hey, no worries we have plenty of 4 and 6 cyl ones, just pick three!!! Cleaned them, fitted rings, can you see where this is going..... they wouldn’t fit in the block would they!!!! 3900has the 4.2 inch bore aswell!!!
Roy Stokes
Member
- Location
- East Shropshire
We've had this from new
Brought six months after I was born.
Spud money
P reg.
Circa 6 k hrs on original engine. Porous block. Around 8k on 2nd engine. 3 or 4 clutches .
Fertilizer has killed it a bit
View attachment 623900
Oil bath air cleaner.
I did ask about why not q cab version to the old man.......
Your Ford featured in CT Mag recently Carbon ?
- Location
- south norfolk, uk
4630 did yes
timff
Member
Spud money made for a good number of tractor purchases in autumn 1975 and autumn 1976. £200/ton. Be delighted with that now! Just found May 76 price list. 6600 Q cab £5200. That explains a pal of mine telling me "out went a lorry load of spuds and in came a lorry with the new 66....equal price for each!"
Ford just couldn't keep up with demand. That's why there's loads of MF 590's , and IH 784's still lurking about in Pembrokeshire.
Most we ever had was £7.5k for an artic load of organic spuds in 2001. Bought a new TS 115 in early 2002, so nearly 4 loads to pay for it. God knows how many loads to pay for a tractor now.......
My grandfather bought a 4600 on a T reg to replace a pre Q 4600. He did spec puh and pas but got them to take out the radio......We've had this from new
Brought six months after I was born.
Spud money
P reg.
Circa 6 k hrs on original engine. Porous block. Around 8k on 2nd engine. 3 or 4 clutches .
Fertilizer has killed it a bit
View attachment 623900
Oil bath air cleaner.
I did ask about why not q cab version to the old man.......
A deceased brother of my fathers , bought a new 4100 with the same cab in the same garage at the same time. It had a puh. I don’t know what it cost. It’s gone this 20 years, and he dead for 5.
It had 12.4 x 36 rears , and 6.00 x 16 fronts , and the cranked front axle like a 3000. They were great traction wise.
We've had this from new
Brought six months after I was born.
Spud money
P reg.
Circa 6 k hrs on original engine. Porous block. Around 8k on 2nd engine. 3 or 4 clutches .
Fertilizer has killed it a bit
View attachment 623900
Oil bath air cleaner.
I did ask about why not q cab version to the old man.......
I was 11 when it landed here.
As far as I remember , I think it was only £50 odd for the pick up hitch. So there were at least 2 men who thought it a bit extravagant.
After that , I am glad he bought it. It’s given Trojan service ,
- Location
- south norfolk, uk
But that's £50......the ole fella is a bit "careful".....
david
Member
- Location
- County Down
How many new tractors will give the service that jf850 has out of the 5600 ?
The old Ford's had their faults, but who would have thought how many of them would be still working now 40 odd years later ?
The old Ford's had their faults, but who would have thought how many of them would be still working now 40 odd years later ?
- Location
- south norfolk, uk
It beggars belief the abuse the 4600 has had over the years. Ploughed for a number of years with a 3f plough and spud wheels. All spraying and fert for 35 plus yrs. All drilling for 40yrs. Corn cart for many yrs with 6t trailer with no trailer brake valve. Last near 35 yrs twacking away on a sucker blower,all corn in and out of store. Sitting in all that dust
. Does well to keep going really.