M-J-G
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Why do I warrant a mention in your post to someones else?
Do Scottish suckler farmers need support??? Here are the figures
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gone up the hill
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I want pasty to actually carry out some of the stupid ideas he claims that all UK farmers should be doing.
When he actually does this and shows it works then fair enough he can come back and preach to the rest of us.
But his claim that he makes a very good living ( so 20K+ ) from half a dozen chickens and a few sheep that wont even lamb for another 12 months is complete hogwash.
M-J-G
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But it's a thread about Scottish sucklers, does that limit it to only posters who live in Scotland.
It's either an open forum or it's not.
lazy farmer
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its funny it feels like the other way round to me. but then I'm not sure i classify as a hardworking professional farmer.
Do I really do that or am I touching a raw nerve? Someone with a successful business who was not insecure and a bully could just ignore a little pipsqueak hobby farmer like me.
fan bloody tastic
gone up the hill
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Your idea about UK farmers taking control beyond the farm gate by way of co operatives from farm gate to supermarket trolley is a very good one but no groups like the farming unions/ AHDB think the same or think this is the road that UK farmers should be going down and thus will not help to implement it/ try to make it happen.
They basically think we should we producing more for less.
why not
Where did I say my ewes won't lamb for another 12 months? Ram has been in for a while now. I expect lambs this year. If I have said that they I apologise, I must have mis-typed or been wasted or something. I bought them as ewe lambs in late 16. I can probably find the threads. Currently on 22 ewes and a couple rams so no great shakes but might turn me a profit. As I grew up with dairy/ beef, I need to ease into sheep slowly as they suit my land but I have (had) ne experience of them. You must also surely appreciate that I have a few more than a half dozen chickens? Surely. I'll give you a clue. I've got a Brinsea 380 incubator and it's been running pretty much 24/7 since early 2015. So that's at least 7 birds, not 6 as you claim.
M-J-G
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Give me some facts, for me to give an answer without information would be as stupid as the expectation of an answer to the unanswerable conundrum.still not answered the question which I didn't think you would, but went on to put some meaningless drivel which I did think you would
You provide some sh!tty minimalist hypothetical situation in some attempt to prove some point, and now when you are asked for a few more (fictional) details that would furnish an answer, you aren't prepared to oblige, even though you are free make the situation up as you go along.
lazy farmer
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godsake get a room
that's all the information you get, and you need some grass for your cattle tomorrow and you can only buy one lot, what you gona do ? or let them starve
or more rubbish
pretty sure he is not my type no hole in the right place but ya never know till you trygodsake get a room
M-J-G
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So we're buying now, not renting?
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Exactly - why the actual.f**k would you still be listening to the likes of the AHDB NFU and the rest?
What do they actually do for you, other than spread propaganda to support their own positions and maintain the status quo?
The status quo is broken, the industrial "just add drugs and fertilise" model is broken, the sales and marketing is broken, in many cases the reward is gone from farming for the current generation and the next generation isn't keen to take the baton...
Truly lamentable.
I say some bright sparks could get around a table and say " fudge this, let's do better for our farmers and take control " but the unfortunate fact of the matter is - control.
The government wants control of agriculture, they don't trust you with it?
And they use all these tools to achieve it, just as farmers use their own tools to inflict their will on the landscape.
I fear it is about at the point of a standoff.
Shame some of the big guns for e.g. Dyson or those on the rich list wouldn't stump up the cash to set you free from your chains to the gov't - one of the big dairy tycoons here managed to set up his own dairy processing facility (Grant Patterson, Gardians, if you want to Google it) so it is a feasible thing to do.
But your gov't is toying with you, little soundbites from Gove is almost admission of guilt as to the fact it has been going on for a century and hasn't had the positive spin-off for the environment.
Yes, you have a massive domestic population and lots of hedge miles; but these are advantages!
The current model turns this massive advantage into disadvantage - I have a 4 acre field with horrible access, last thing on my mind is to try to get a plough or a combine in there!
I'd love to find a better way to help the situation than banging away on here, but you are soon going to have to start boycotting and taking action a la French farmer protests.
Sitting on your hands, taking the kings shilling and grumbling has not worked in the last century, time to act while you have your chance to dictate terms - the future generations will wonder why nobody did!!
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384 egg capacity and a 21 day batch period means a lot of eggs!
Even doing 12 batches a year and having a 50% sale rate that's 2,304. At a profit of £10/bird that's £23,040. Seems do able to me...
meant to say rent
Actually it may be surprising, hate to say it though
gone up the hill
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The sheep haven't lambed and even if they have you are not going to earn a very good living off 22 ewes and a few chickens.
And don't think for one minute im putting down what your doing because im not and fair play for you to start rebuilding your numbers but you aren't doing anyone any favours by saying that you are earning a good living off a handfull of animals.
And what will work with a handfull of animals wont always work when your have several hundred/ thousands of them.
gone up the hill
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Now these things I would love to hear............................