Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Tim W

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
A one way ticket in the long term and didn't work in NZ did it because they tried that for a few years and now they have given up and culled their flocks hard/ quit sheep farming as long term you have to be able to invest in your business.

For the life of me I cant understand why so many farmers on here are so keen to talk down the farm gate price they receive for their goods, you would never see any other industry do this to try and justify low prices for their goods, madness!

I don't think it's possible to talk down a commodity price ---it's supply and demand that dictates the price i get
If i can produce the product at a lower COP then that's good for me as it means my profit margins increase?
 
Location
Cleveland
They shift a lot of beef to the wholesale and catering trade so I wouldn’t be surprised if they do the same with lamb and pork. Morrisons have a spec as tight as the other supermarkets, al those out of spec carcasses have to find a home somewhere.
I knew they shifted the out of spec cattle they get...it goes to a wholesaler in Bradford. That’s why they hammer you for out of spec ones as they don’t want them...but didn’t realise they sold beef other than out of spec ones
 

Cow1

Member
Rugby hoggs yesterday, trade back but still money for good hoggs.
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hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Same theory as Wheat and lamb 25 years ago were selling for £170 per tonne and £100 per lamb. How was it affordable to the consumer then or the butcher for that matter.
People were spending more of their income on food then. Now they all spend their money on iphones and sky packages and food is way down the list of priorities when it comes to spending.
 

Old Tip

Member
Location
Cumbria
The ethnic trade is what holds up the Sheep meat market, they would choose lamb and mutton over any other meat and eat very chicken and virtually no pork. So there is always going to be another outlet besides the supermarkets but the real gold is made over the channel where or lamb is seen as a premier product. Let’s just hope we don’t lose that market as the government doesn’t seem to be bothered about it as long as they can still get there BMW’s, Audi’s and Merc’s
 

dunk999

Member
4 months of cracking trade and were feeling sorry for poor Tesco and Joe public having to take a few quid out their holiday funds? I have no doubt that they will somehow have us squeezed back to break even prices quick enough so let’s all sit tight and make them work to get our lamb for as long as we can for as much as we can.
 
4 months of cracking trade and were feeling sorry for poor Tesco and Joe public having to take a few quid out their holiday funds? I have no doubt that they will somehow have us squeezed back to break even prices quick enough so let’s all sit tight and make them work to get our lamb for as long as we can for as much as we can.
Feeling sorry no.....warry that they cant afford it and change eating habits...yes
 

WRXppp

Member
Location
North Yorks
I bet the bloody butchers last year weren’t saying
“£70-£80 a lamb?! That isn’t sustainable for the poor farmer”
Totally agree with you but I don’t think the little highstreet or village butcher really has much to do with the price farmers get, i did point out how much beef was deadweight and how much per kg I had just paid per kg for that!
 

Sheeponfire

Member
I don't think it's possible to talk down a commodity price ---it's supply and demand that dictates the price i get
If i can produce the product at a lower COP then that's good for me as it means my profit margins increase?


Am all for this lower COP..... from any means poss that suits the farmer / system.......

as long as this "profit margin increase" stays at home in my business.....

lower COP needs to be for my gain (y)(y).........

NOT the supply chain / retailer shareholders...(n)(n)(n)
 

beefandsleep

Member
Location
Staffordshire
I knew they shifted the out of spec cattle they get...it goes to a wholesaler in Bradford. That’s why they hammer you for out of spec ones as they don’t want them...but didn’t realise they sold beef other than out of spec ones

Running up to Easter they were killing as many lambs as they could get, they wanted the legs but didn’t have a market for the saddles. They were being sold into Europe, Italy mainly I was told by one of the buyers. A lot of shoulders going into the catering trade also.
 

beefandsleep

Member
Location
Staffordshire
All the lamb in Tain store is from Woodheads. Dangers of going to Lidl, just popped in to look at the chops and came out with some KFC style chicken, an air ratchet set, a spare air hose and a pop up beach shelter View attachment 674294View attachment 674296
Although I’m sure it was unintentional, your post illustrates the problem we have perfectly. You spent more cash on the cheap consumables that you probably could have done without and bought some of the cheapest convenience protein you could get. And you a farmer to boot. You could probably have picked up a nice sirloin steak for dinner and gone home with more cash in your pocket.
 

Top Tip.

Member
Location
highland
Although I’m sure it was unintentional, your post illustrates the problem we have perfectly. You spent more cash on the cheap consumables that you probably could have done without and bought some of the cheapest convenience protein you could get. And you a farmer to boot. You could probably have picked up a nice sirloin steak for dinner and gone home with more cash in your pocket.
This is where marketing comes in,our marketing bodies have the job of persuading people that it is worth spending the extra on lamb and making it a must have part of a meal,this is how the likes of Rolls Royce,Chanel etc have a queue waiting for their product,in this day and age the trick is to make a product aspirational and then price does not matter.
 

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